Steven Gerrard

HangTime · 21 Oct 2007 at 23:17

I reckon he's been taking tips from Andy Johnson. Not a diver per se but just seems to go down pretty easily in and and around the box.

McDaniel · 22 Oct 2007 at 06:47

kitten_caboodle said:
yep. Suck it up tbh. He's by no means the most voracious or the most insistent. Just watch John Terry for proof.

Edit. Someone posted inbetween - I was agreeing with those above

Or Robby Keane the man moans about everything, even when a decision goes their way

Gilly · 22 Oct 2007 at 11:54

weringo said:
Also, his main strike partner has been Owen, and you describe him as "inexperianced and inneffective"? LOL, how about our "most experianced" and perhaps our "most effective" player over the years, well on the way to breaking Charlton's goal record. That would be a much more accurate description of Rooney's strike partner.

Pehaps Owen comes under the injured part of his post?

Just a guess.

NokkonWud · 22 Oct 2007 at 12:11

HangTime said:
I reckon he's been taking tips from Andy Johnson. Not a diver per se but just seems to go down pretty easily in and and around the box.

Don't! You'll start dannyjo22 off on another anti-Johnson tirade.

eekfek · 22 Oct 2007 at 12:37

gerrard , still the best and most influencial midfielder of his type in the world , i'd be more than happy for him never to play for england again, they dont deserve a player of his class

so other fans dont like him, wow suprised, he'd get in every team in the world but you already know that ....

atpbx · 22 Oct 2007 at 12:39

Gilly said:
Pehaps Owen comes under the injured part of his post?

Just a guess.

Exactly at no point since 2004 have booth Owen and Rooney been fully fit and paired together.

FSS, Rooney has had TWO broken feet since then, and Owen has been out for over a year.

I swear some people just like to seem stupid.

atpbx · 22 Oct 2007 at 12:45

eekfek said:
so other fans dont like him, wow suprised, he'd get in every team in the world but you already know that ....

Would he?

Who in the top teams in Europe would he replace?

weringo · 22 Oct 2007 at 12:54

atpbx said:
Exactly at no point since 2004 have booth Owen and Rooney been fully fit and paired together.

FSS, Rooney has had TWO broken feet since then, and Owen has been out for over a year.

I swear some people just like to seem stupid.

That's a wild claim to make that two players haven't been fully fit for over THREE YEARS.

Only one person here is coming across stupid.

Loki · 22 Oct 2007 at 12:57

eekfek said:
gerrard , still the best and most influencial midfielder of his type in the world , i'd be more than happy for him never to play for england again, they dont deserve a player of his class

so other fans dont like him, wow suprised, he'd get in every team in the world but you already know that ....

He would walk into most but not all

The Running Man · 22 Oct 2007 at 12:58

weringo said:
That's a wild claim to make that two players haven't been fully fit for over THREE YEARS.

Only one person here is coming across stupid.

Fully Fit and Played together....

so id agree with
atpbx

JohnnyG · 22 Oct 2007 at 12:59

He wouldn't get in at Chelsea because Lamps and he can't play together apparently unless you're JM and are confident they can

weringo · 22 Oct 2007 at 13:04

Nickg said:
Fully Fit and Played together....

so id agree with
atpbx

Since 2004 there are quite a few times Rooney and Owen have both been fully fit, last week against Russia for example.

Tinders · 22 Oct 2007 at 13:09

I dont think Gerarrd could do what he does for Liverpool, for any other club in the world.

Gilly · 22 Oct 2007 at 13:24

Can we lay off the stupidity comments please? Getting close to personal attacks.

atpbx · 22 Oct 2007 at 15:30

weringo said:
Since 2004 there are quite a few times Rooney and Owen have both been fully fit, last week against Russia for example.

and Rooney Scored?

weringo · 22 Oct 2007 at 16:08

atpbx said:
and Rooney Scored?

Yes he did

atpbx said:
Exactly at no point since 2004 have booth Owen and Rooney been fully fit and paired together.

I was referring to this comment as it's simply not true.

atpbx · 22 Oct 2007 at 19:32

weringo said:
Yes he did

I was referring to this comment as it's simply not true.

It is.

spend two minutes researching it.

Explain to me how he's been paired with a fully fit Owen in the last 3 years when Owen has spent nearly two years out injured and Rooney has suffered THREE broken feet.

Then in the games when they have been paired when they have been fit, show me where Wayne has either failed to score or come up with an assist, then explain to me how in the few games where he hasn't scored or played well when he has been fit and paired with a fit Owen how this constitutes "playing badly for the majority of the last 3 years"

He's managed 14 international goals in 40 appearances by 21. and been crocked for a good deal of time.

BaZ87 · 22 Oct 2007 at 19:48

atpbx said:
......

So Rooney can only play with Owen?

Which could be a problem as it would seem Owen doesn't play well with Rooney.

Crouch on the other hand can play and has scored with any other striker alongside him

Gilly · 22 Oct 2007 at 19:59

BaZ87 said:
So Rooney can only play with Owen?

I must have missed the point where he said that.

BaZ87 said:
Which could be a problem as it would seem Owen doesn't play well with Rooney.

Just a case of learning to play together if they can both stay fit. Rooney drops off and Owen runs in behind. It should work perfectly once they knows each others game.

BaZ87 said:
Crouch on the other hand can play and has scored with any other striker alongside him

He's not getting in the side for his domestic team so thats irrelevant.

weringo · 22 Oct 2007 at 20:00

atpbx said:
It is.

spend two minutes researching it.

Explain to me how he's been paired with a fully fit Owen in the last 3 years when Owen has spent nearly two years out injured and Rooney has suffered THREE broken feet.

Then in the games when they have been paired when they have been fit, show me where Wayne has either failed to score or come up with an assist, then explain to me how in the few games where he hasn't scored or played well when he has been fit and paired with a fit Owen how this constitutes "playing badly for the majority of the last 3 years"

He's managed 14 international goals in 40 appearances by 21. and been crocked for a good deal of time.

You're just making excuses, you can't come up with an excuse for every game in a 3 and a bit period where Rooney has been playing below average.

He may have a decent scoring record, but when hes only scored his first competetive goal last week since the euros, he's clearly not scoring when it matters.