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but Burnsy, look at the comments

I'd rather not.

someone should have issued a statement a long time ago.

I agree and some Chief Constables are undermining themselves and their forces not focusing on core policing. I understand why they have talked about low level non-crime hate incidents, that's often what HMICFRS look at during their inspections, but it gives the message that we're coping with the core policing responsibility. I hate to say it, but I don't think this is the case all the time.
 
I'm sure if you got in contact with the police and said you have tracked them down and were going to kill them they would be there right away...well to arrest you at least!
 
Soviet yeah I will definitely not accept it as acceptable, but sadly I am just one guy who has no power. My only sway is a single vote in a safe labour seat on a FPTP voting system.

You have 10 officers in your entire team on shift, so a burglar see's something high profile like the death of vichai on TV, which had at least 10 officers there, then they know they got free reign to burgle, rob in the street etc. as the entire force is tied up in a single incident. Its sad that the entire force for a given area, is smaller than some child gangs.
 
I'm sure if you got in contact with the police and said you have tracked them down and were going to kill them they would be there right away...well to arrest you at least!

A lady got jailed for killing her rapist who had threatened to rape her daughter as well. Wasnt in the UK tho.
 
I'm not sure if it's your phrasing, but I don't understand what you've said.

I believe it's at a point where front line policing is a failure. Taking cuts out of the dimension here, there are Hate Crime units set up.

Specifically relating to you, would you remove a heavily pregnant woman from a train who was sitting in someone else's seat if they would otherwise not remove themselves? Journey is long and all other seats taken?
 
I believe it's at a point where front line policing is a failure. Taking cuts out of the dimension here, there are Hate Crime units set up.

Which forces have a hate crime unit, other than perhaps the Met which have the economies of scale? Mine certainly doesn't.

Specifically relating to you, would you remove a heavily pregnant woman from a train who was sitting in someone else's seat if they would otherwise not remove themselves? Journey is long and all other seats taken?

What on earth makes you think that I'd consider doing that?
 
Soviet yeah I will definitely not accept it as acceptable, but sadly I am just one guy who has no power. My only sway is a single vote in a safe labour seat on a FPTP voting system.

You have 10 officers in your entire team on shift, so a burglar see's something high profile like the death of vichai on TV, which had at least 10 officers there, then they know they got free reign to burgle, rob in the street etc. as the entire force is tied up in a single incident. Its sad that the entire force for a given area, is smaller than some child gangs.

The sad thing is it often gets like that where calls will just go unanswered for hours on end and police control will just tell stores that have detained shoplifters to release them as we've sunk. We've had serious incidents before where plain clothes CID have had to man crime scenes as uniformed officers are dealing with prisoners from various calls.

In my eyes the problem is two-fold. Yes we need decent funding and more officers, but we need a proper remit and to focus on crime and crime alone. Right now a response officer will spend a disproportionate amount of time dealing with mental health issues in the community, looking for regular missing youths who will run away to meet friends and party, and to pick up the pieces from social services who can't cope with their workload. A colleague was sent to an address the other week to a complaint of a neighbour's dog constantly fouling outside her address. It'd be laughable if it wasn't so tragic.

Ultimately we need to do less with less, not try to do more with less.

A Royal commission into policing is desperately needed.
 
Sadly the police, at least the force I work for, can't seem to say no to anything. We seem to be the dumping ground, and as my colleague put it "if it isn't on fire, call the police."
My supervision (not just middle management too) seem terrified of risk so they prefer to send the troops to everything, rather the 0.01% chance of something going wrong.

All whilst dealing with mental health, mispers and non-crime related domestic disputes where police are being used by aggrieved parties to get a one up on their ex-partners to help in custody battles.

And people wonder why there's nobody to attend their burglary! Policing in this country is in such a mess and many on the ground are frantically trying to apply for specialist roles or quitting entirely. Sad.
 
Sadly the police, at least the force I work for, can't seem to say no to anything. We seem to be the dumping ground, and as my colleague put it "if it isn't on fire, call the police."
My supervision (not just middle management too) seem terrified of risk so they prefer to send the troops to everything, rather the 0.01% chance of something going wrong.

All whilst dealing with mental health, mispers and non-crime related domestic disputes where police are being used by aggrieved parties to get a one up on their ex-partners to help in custody battles.

And people wonder why there's nobody to attend their burglary! Policing in this country is in such a mess and many on the ground are frantically trying to apply for specialist roles or quitting entirely. Sad.

Very very true. But how can we blame your supervisor or middle management? They're terrified that if they make the wrong decision, even in good faith, the IOPC will march down there and had them a gross misconduct notice, because the IOPC seem to think that everyone has a crystal ball.

I also like it how *everything* is a "force priority".

Vulnerable mispers, CSE, burglaries, sexual offences, mental health, domestic abuse, hate crime, anti social behaviour, violent crime, knife crime, drug dealing, vehicle crime, counter terrorism - they all are a "force priority". Unfortunately, when everything becomes a priority - nothing is a priority. That's what the government can't seem to get their heads around. If they want everything to be a priority - great! Who wouldn't want all of those areas addressed and dealt with effectively? But it's gonna cost you. If you took the current budget and multipled it by about 10, that would probably mean that everything could be as the government wants it to be.

Year on year, the government seem to load up forces with more responsibilities, and in the same breath reduce their funding. Shock horror! It doesn't work!

It's difficult to lay the blame for this at one persons foot, but Theresa May as the Home Secretary brought a *lot* of this stuff in and IMHO, she will go down as one of the most incompetent Home Secretaries of all time. I don't mind change at all, and hate it when people say "but that's how we've always done it", but my God did she have her head in the clouds. She'd seemingly come up with new idiotic ideas on a weekly basis in which everyone was screaming at her would not work, but she would force them through. And it all came down to the fact she had no understanding of policing and most importantly, her utter arrogance meant she had no desire to understand it either - preferring to go to war with the police than accept that a lot of her ideas *may* *possibly* have been utter dog ****.
 
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I have had colleagues very clearly tell the control room they will not attend odd jobs like these. They've even been backed up by supervision.

Thing is, this could be antisocial behaviour.
It could also be intimidation, if the owner is doing it on purpose to harass the poor elderly woman in her house.
Serious fouling using an animal is disgusting, and whilst it may not warrant a swift police response, there should be some council unit assigned to it.
The amount of dog **** on footpaths outside schools can be ridiculous.
 
I was in the coop earlier, and assisted in restraining a shoplifter who tried to walk out with a ton of booze without paying. The police never turned up and he was eventually let go without the booze and barred from the shop.

The coop have their own security staff but as I understand it is like one guy between about 5 or 6 stores.
 
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