Soldato
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I do seem to get thrown on wake up quite a lot which seems to beat lots of normals.
Street Fighter (SFIV, SSFIV, HDR)
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I always forget to block throws 
they catch me out every time
they catch me out every time
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Quick rise or back roll on knock down will stop it.
or jab.
or short.
or dp.
It's not a great option to use on someone's wake up unless you have conditioned them not to press buttons.
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if you change your wake up timing a lot (ie. actually choose between quick rise, normal rise and back rise, instead of just doing one over and over), its really hard to set that up on you
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Cool ta will try all that.
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Now I've worked out the basics of SFV has anyone got any decent youtube videos on strategies against certain characters?
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strategies will be character specific. have a look at the character pages on the srk forums
3200 at the moment (well, a few LP under I think) but I still haven't finalised my character choice as I don't gel with any of them.
Bison is easily the best in the game at the moment I think, he's the main reason I got this high rather than any form of skill. I wish I could use Chun-Li properly as she's the most fun to play while Bison is very simple.
Bison is easily the best in the game at the moment I think, he's the main reason I got this high rather than any form of skill. I wish I could use Chun-Li properly as she's the most fun to play while Bison is very simple.
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900 - 1000 hence why I need tutorial videos
900 - 1000 hence why I need tutorial videos
I improve the most from playing people just above my level rather than reading loads of guides.
Theory isn't useful without meaningful practice.
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1500ish.
Win a few and lose a few at this level, don't seem to be able to progress at all.
I'm maining Ken. Although I'm pretty rubbish with him I enjoy how he plays.
I'm waiting for challenge mode to come out so I can learn some more combos.
Win a few and lose a few at this level, don't seem to be able to progress at all.
I'm maining Ken. Although I'm pretty rubbish with him I enjoy how he plays.
I'm waiting for challenge mode to come out so I can learn some more combos.
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I guess I'll playing then
Whats this challenge mode you speak of?
I believe part of it will be load of combos you have to complete like in SF 4.
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I'm just over 1000LP, down from my highest of something like 1160 or so.
I play as Laura. I just really fancied a change from Ryu again. I'm slowly getting there, but my execution is poor. I can just about nail f+hp target combo into hp elbow giving a good 300+ damage punish. Sometimes I can't even do lp, lp or the lp elbow!
I find in matches, if I'm patient, I can win without too much trouble. It's all down to getting some good punishes, stun, then deal fully charged hp clap into the above combo or ex elbow and catching people out.
If someone goes ham on me, I find I struggle to block. I can be holding down-back and still get swept. Or, using lights for quick taps and just get a hk/hp cc on me.
I still don't know 'safe', 'meaty', 'block stun', 'mixup', '50/50', when and how crush counters come out (from or versus, other than it's usually a hp/hk or Laura's V-Skill). I'm absolutely terrible at executing her command throw - it seems like I have to be bang on top of them otherwise it whiffs. I can watch some really good videos, then forget the most basic combos! Even when my combos come out, I'll be punished because I'm using them at the wrong time.
I find a lot of intro videos just leave these things out and don't really show how training works.
/edit: should add, it still knocks spots of SF4. I actually like playing a lot of the cast!
I play as Laura. I just really fancied a change from Ryu again. I'm slowly getting there, but my execution is poor. I can just about nail f+hp target combo into hp elbow giving a good 300+ damage punish. Sometimes I can't even do lp, lp or the lp elbow!
I find in matches, if I'm patient, I can win without too much trouble. It's all down to getting some good punishes, stun, then deal fully charged hp clap into the above combo or ex elbow and catching people out.
If someone goes ham on me, I find I struggle to block. I can be holding down-back and still get swept. Or, using lights for quick taps and just get a hk/hp cc on me.
I still don't know 'safe', 'meaty', 'block stun', 'mixup', '50/50', when and how crush counters come out (from or versus, other than it's usually a hp/hk or Laura's V-Skill). I'm absolutely terrible at executing her command throw - it seems like I have to be bang on top of them otherwise it whiffs. I can watch some really good videos, then forget the most basic combos! Even when my combos come out, I'll be punished because I'm using them at the wrong time.
I find a lot of intro videos just leave these things out and don't really show how training works.
/edit: should add, it still knocks spots of SF4. I actually like playing a lot of the cast!
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Soldato
safe: a move that cant be punished by anything your opponent do after blocking, in laura's case lp elbow
meaty: a move executed on your opponent's knock down or air reset to have the move hit on its last active frame, meaning that you can do combos you can not normally do, such as laura's meaty standing hp combos into crouching mp but you cant do that normally
block stun: how long your opponent will stay in block animation during a move
mixup: a unfavourable situation where your opponent has to guess where your next attacking move will hit, a good example will be after a knock down, you jump in for an ambiguous crossup, your opponent will have to guess left or right, hence it is a left/right mixup.
50/50: a mixup attempt that can hit in two different way and will lead to equally damaging combos, so you have to guess which one to block but its equally bad if you guess wrong, for example after a knock down laura can do a charged fireball mixup, so you can do neither a crossup or empty jump crouching lk to knock them into the fireball. your opponent would have to guess high or low in the same amount of time and both option will lead to finishing the combo with crouch hp into mp elbow for equal damage.
crush counter: each character have a couple of buttons that can crush counter, you just have to counter hit with those buttons, in laura's case its her standing hk and hp
meaty: a move executed on your opponent's knock down or air reset to have the move hit on its last active frame, meaning that you can do combos you can not normally do, such as laura's meaty standing hp combos into crouching mp but you cant do that normally
block stun: how long your opponent will stay in block animation during a move
mixup: a unfavourable situation where your opponent has to guess where your next attacking move will hit, a good example will be after a knock down, you jump in for an ambiguous crossup, your opponent will have to guess left or right, hence it is a left/right mixup.
50/50: a mixup attempt that can hit in two different way and will lead to equally damaging combos, so you have to guess which one to block but its equally bad if you guess wrong, for example after a knock down laura can do a charged fireball mixup, so you can do neither a crossup or empty jump crouching lk to knock them into the fireball. your opponent would have to guess high or low in the same amount of time and both option will lead to finishing the combo with crouch hp into mp elbow for equal damage.
crush counter: each character have a couple of buttons that can crush counter, you just have to counter hit with those buttons, in laura's case its her standing hk and hp
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50/50 and mixup are exactly the same except a 50/50 implies only 2 options in the mixup. An SPD (Spinning Pile Driver, aka Zangief's big throw) and a crouching light kick is still a 50/50 for example, and the crouching light tick setups a tick throw. A tick throw is where you throw straight after the block stun of a (normally light) move so that it's hard to counter/react to.
Other than that vian is bang on.
Edit: With crush counters it's important to know that heavy moves out-prioritise lighter moves. If you press crouching medium punch and the opponent presses standing heavy punch, and they're both active on the same frame, the heavy move will "counter" (beat) the lighter one. If the button they pressed had crush properties (normally characters have 2 heavy moves that do this) then you get put into a mini dizzy state and can eat a massive combo.
So don't mash jab/strong when the opponent is using heavy buttons, just block or time your buttons well.
Other than that vian is bang on.
Edit: With crush counters it's important to know that heavy moves out-prioritise lighter moves. If you press crouching medium punch and the opponent presses standing heavy punch, and they're both active on the same frame, the heavy move will "counter" (beat) the lighter one. If the button they pressed had crush properties (normally characters have 2 heavy moves that do this) then you get put into a mini dizzy state and can eat a massive combo.
So don't mash jab/strong when the opponent is using heavy buttons, just block or time your buttons well.
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