Students...all ****ers?

[Van Hellseek]

I've been one myself, and I've lived with more than 20 in shared houses to date.

But the absolute vast majority still come across to me as inconsiderate, selfish and immature. And often (as house mates) loud and dirty too. In fact I'm not sure I'd happily live with any of them again given the choice. Even the good ones were only tolerable, rather than decent.

Discuss.

 

[Van Hellseek]

Forunately, they mature.

It could be argued that at 18+ they should already be mature. Particularly the ones in their final year/masters, yet the ones I know, even in that late stage of education are still no better than children.

 

[Van Hellseek]

We're not all bad. You just rarely hear stories about the good ones.

Well I'm personally talking from first-hand experience, rather than 'stories'. But I see your point.

 

[Van Hellseek]

my mates who work full time are just as bad as my student mates to be fair

What type of work? Unskilled? Or maybe they are middle class ex-students who never grew out of the student mentality?

 

[Van Hellseek]

Basically this thread is a statement that seek is a mature, responsible adult who has grown out of student life and that everyone should adhere to his example.

Students have a skewed perspective of what real life is like (and their role within it). Because;

1) They usually have no 'real life' experience.

2) They believe that as a student they are 'owed' a particular lifestyle. By which I'm not talking so much financially, as the way they are allowed to behave.

Parents/schools etc should do more to properly prepare them, rather than simply inflict them on the rest of us.

 

[Van Hellseek]

*snip*

Way OT.

 

[Van Hellseek]

It's only OT because it wasn't in response to your reply.

...Or the topic of the thread. Thus making it OT.


See OP?

 

[Van Hellseek]

what the loans in relation to student maturity, and their ability to play the system?

And my ass can play the saxophone.

Loan details have nothing to do with the fact that the majority of students act like ****ers during their time at uni. Feel free to argue the contrary, but I imagine less than 1% of non-students will give that angle any regard whatsoever.

 

[Van Hellseek]

Were you bullied at University? Only kidding of course.

Haha, you students with your wit!

 

[Van Hellseek]

Many degrees now include a placement year so students DO have real life experience.

A year work experience isn't quite what I was talking about.

 

[Van Hellseek]

Workers that are complaining in this thread are just jealous they aren't at uni anymore (or never had that experience), simple as.

Exactly the kind of reply I'd expect from the type of person I described in the OP.

"You're life isn't as good as mine, you're just jealous!"

Grow up.

 

[Van Hellseek]

I resent that.




I'm not a weeaboo.

 

[Van Hellseek]

If you can't do me the courtesy of a reply I have no choice but to assume my original point was correct.

Assume away if you like.

But if I answer that then the thread will descend into people nit-picking my posts, which is only likely to lead to petty arguing. And anyway, I don't really think it needs further explanation.

 

[Van Hellseek]

Ha! Ha! You loose.

Read the thread. Many posts are agreeing with the OP.

Yup, nearly every one I know is an unbearable idiot.

Yep, most of them are idiots.

Yes, they are.

Yep id agree with that

Most students are by nature.....ignorant turds

Unfortunately as much as I hate generalisations I think this one is relatively accurate.

etc etc etc

 

[Van Hellseek]

I think that you're showing some trolling behavior. You have started a really controversial thread which is quite offensive, and then instead of defending your position you're just ignoring posts which call you out on your views.

If you're going to start threads like these at least have the balls to respond properly when people have taken the time to write a reply.

I would be happy to, but when people start nitpicking and getting argumentative then it's time to stop. Basically anything I post now is only going to be ripped apart by bored people looking for a fight.

I put my views across, and handed it over to you guys to see what the general opinion was. So I'm hardly trolling.

 

[Van Hellseek]

You posted a thread and people disagree with the content.

No they didn't... Read the thread. Plenty of people agreed.

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11694900&postcount=222

 

[Van Hellseek]

Qualify your statements, defend your position or keep quiet.

Every student I have lived with and most I've met, be it in education, or socially, has been unpleasant. I genuinely wondered if it was just bad luck on my part, or if people here had the same general opinion, so I started a thread to find out.

I don't believe it required any further information. In fact If I had given more information then the thread would have become about me, which is missing the point entirely... The point was to see if other people stereotyped students in the same way. So my own personal experiences are almost entirely irrelevant to the discussion.

And stop calling me a troll. That in itself is only going to cause petty bickering, thus making you a hypocrite.

 

[Van Hellseek]

Yes thankyou, Mr. 7k+ posts in less than a year. I find it hard to imagine how someone could manage that without being a little dysfunctional themselves...

 

[Van Hellseek]

You mean you?

Yes. OP = original post (can also mean 'poster' depending on context).

 

[Van Hellseek]

You do understand what gareth was on about right? That posting select quotes to support your own argument is worthless and pointless?

No, he just took it as the wrong context. He thought I was saying "people are agreeing with the original poster" which sounds wrong because the original poster was myself, thus I should have said something like "people are agreeing with me".

But actually I meant "people are agreeing with the original post".

Basically he was nitpicking.