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If at all.
The thing is though for me, the whole racism thing is being well and truly blown up out of all proportion.
AFAIK the FA and Evra have said Surez is not a racist, but instead he breached the FA rule E3.
The worrying thing is that the media jump all over this 'racist' incident and this is what will make it all worse. Let's face it:
"SUAREZ CHARGED FOR RACIST COMMENT" sounds a lot sexier than "SUAREZ BROKE FA RULE E3".
The thing is though for me, the whole racism thing is being well and truly blown up out of all proportion.
AFAIK the FA and Evra have said Surez is not a racist, but instead he breached the FA rule E3.
The worrying thing is that the media jump all over this 'racist' incident and this is what will make it all worse. Let's face it:
"SUAREZ CHARGED FOR RACIST COMMENT" sounds a lot sexier than "SUAREZ BROKE FA RULE E3".
Lol @ all the Liverpool fans kickin right off 
I'm all for supporting your team and everything, but some of the posts from Liverpool fans in this thread are ridiculous. What are you going to say/do when LFC tries to appeal this ban, fail, and the ban gets extended?
It's quite obvious that if you come into a foreign country and say something that is considered racist in said country, then it's going to end badly. Try going to Dubai and getting drunk and kissing a bunch of girls on the beach. Just because it's acceptable here doesn't mean it is everywhere.
I don't think the punishment is harsh at all, in fact I think it's pretty lenient considering the whole "let's get racism out of football" thing they have going.
If it were a player at the club I support I would be disappointed, but I would be more annoyed at the player than the FA.
I'm all for supporting your team and everything, but some of the posts from Liverpool fans in this thread are ridiculous. What are you going to say/do when LFC tries to appeal this ban, fail, and the ban gets extended?
It's quite obvious that if you come into a foreign country and say something that is considered racist in said country, then it's going to end badly. Try going to Dubai and getting drunk and kissing a bunch of girls on the beach. Just because it's acceptable here doesn't mean it is everywhere.
I don't think the punishment is harsh at all, in fact I think it's pretty lenient considering the whole "let's get racism out of football" thing they have going.
If it were a player at the club I support I would be disappointed, but I would be more annoyed at the player than the FA.
I hope LFC wont appeal, because lets be honest here, this is a slap in the face to Fifa exercise more than anything else, the decision has been made.
It will be a very interesting year next year with how the Terry incident will be dealt with, and anything but an 8 match+ ban along with not going to the Euro finals will be utter rubbish.
It will be a very interesting year next year with how the Terry incident will be dealt with, and anything but an 8 match+ ban along with not going to the Euro finals will be utter rubbish.
The John Terry case is completely different though
For starters Terry hasn't admitted to calling ferdinand a "black ****" and there isn't video evidence that provides conclusive proof either way.
I dislike Terry as much as the next man but i wouldn't be surprised to see him get away with it due to the lack of concrete evidence. If Suarez had never admitted to calling Evra a little negrito the case would have likely been dropped for lack of evidence... but he just came right out and admitted it.
Just when I thought the bitterness couldn't get any worse.
Until we know if he's admitted to saying anything, what it is he's admitted to saying and his reasons for saying it, it's all speculation so the majority of you post is not worth debating.
But I object to this. Ignorance may not be an excuse if you get in trouble for saying a certain word but it doesn't make you racist. The whole point of racist remarks is the intetion to discriminate based on race. If (and again, I'm not saying this happened) you've used a word that you believe to be acceptable, you were not discriminating against somebody. The person the remark was aimed at can take offense and you can get into trouble for saying it but ignorance doesn't = being a racist.
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ha ha ha
it isn't bitterness
its the truth the F.A are in fergies pocket and have been for some time
I thought that was standard behaviour for Brits abroad no matter which country it is, then they get all shocked and run to the newspapers about how they were locked up in some skanky jail for a week because of it
Well, he's admitted saying it to various media outlets so the FA will have got wind of this and will have asked him about it.
I'm fairly certain he will have said something along the lines of - "I said word 'X' but I didn't mean it that way..."
I don't think that's an unreasonable assumption.
He used a racist term with the intention of being discriminating/demeaning, how else could he have used it? Also, this isn't just a one off thing, he's alleged to have said it several times throughout the match as well.
cut it out
I'm not sure there would be such uproar amongst the Liverpool fans if this had been someone other than their only top class player....
Ultimately, as said, you can't use the fact you're from an country / region with a lesser developed ideology of equality amongst society and use that to excuse what is undeniably a racist term.
Ultimately, as said, you can't use the fact you're from an country / region with a lesser developed ideology of equality amongst society and use that to excuse what is undeniably a racist term.
thought it stood for "Friends of Alex"
No he hasn't admitted to anything to various media outlets. Newspapers are reporting what they believe he may have admitted to saying. They're also reporting that Evra made reference to Suarez being South American and claiming the ref only booked him because he's black.
And what you're now saying is different to what I quoted. Ignorance doesn't equal being a racist. If you believe the term you used is acceptable and is in no way discrimating against the person you used it, you're not being racist. You're ignorant to use the term that might cause offense but you're not necessarily a racist.
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How come the police haven't been involved so far in this case? Whats different between what JT said and what saurez have said?
You are really exaggerating over the Rooney incident. Stop getting fixated on that, as this is an entirely different issue.
All clubs receive their share of dodgy decisions from officials during matches to the FA outside of them. The "poor little Suarez, big bad Taggart" attitude from Liverpool fans in this thread is wearing thin tbh.
Supporters of all football clubs (apart from Liverpool apparently) want to see a tough stance on racism (see the Blatter incident). Liverpool are just unfortunate that Suarez got caught out first, but it is the man's own attitude problems that have caused it, not Alex Ferguson, not the FA, not any other individual or organisation.
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