** Summer Transfer Window 2012/2013 Season Rumours/Signings **

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Robbo said:
Hazard isn't a Winger, he primarily plays through the middle.

I don't think a 4-4-2 would accommodate him too well though. Hard to say.

I'd love him.
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That's what I meant, with a 4-4-2 chances are we'd play Hazard, Goetze and Gaitan wide unless we put Rooney as the furthest forward and play one of them off him but then that would mean having 3 strikers doing nothing most weeks on the bench. Another alternative would be to switch to 4-3-3 but the end result would still be the same (Welbeck, Hernandez & Berbatov stuck on the bench for weeks on end)
 
Whatever :p, he's got the ability to do whatever he wants and he's the kind of player we need. Someone in midfield with a creative brain and fantastic ability.
 
Shamikebab said:
Sign Hazard, tell Park to **** off to Russia for 20m.

Great summer plan :)
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I would love to get rid of Park in the summer. Hes a decent player and works hard but he is no-where near United standard and would struggle to feature in any of the teams in the top half of the league.

Scholes will retire again at the end of the season I would think so we should get at least 1 midfielder. If that man is Eden Hazard then so be it!
 
SideWinder said:
Where does Hazard normally play? Left? Right? Don't know loads about him. :o

Assuming if you guys want Sneijder as well, can they play together?
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Left, right or centre of attacking midfield generally.

If we put him on the wing we can fit ol' Wesley in too. :p
 
AmTechFox said:
Sneijder & Hazard please, thank you. :p
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http://espn.go.com/sports/soccer/story/_/id/7606073/wrong-wesley-sneijder-michael-cox

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/player/_/id/28235/wesley-sneijder?cc=5739

People really should realise that he was massively over rated at his very best, and really quite crap now. The article is less actually accurate than it is proof that people are wondering what happened to him.... that is people who actually WATCH HIM PLAY, those that don't would love him at their club, those that watch him play wonder if they can get rid of him or are thankful their club didn't buy him.

Look at his BEST year under Mourinho 4 goals and 6 assists in 26 league games? Really, hardly mind blowing stuff is it, 4 goals 5 assists the year after, 1 goal 5 assists last year, all playing a relatively small number of games.

This is a player who rarely if ever plays more than 3/4 of a season, lately less than half. he's got a poor scoring rate for someone who takes a shedload of freekicks and plays an ultra attacking role, he also doesn't get many assists considering that same role. In fact his goal/assist rate has been pretty rubbish, even at Ajax he only had one stand out goal scoring year, I don't know much about it, maybe it included 10 penalties or maybe he played as a striker that year.

He's just one of "those" players who gets randomly popular, loads of people massively rate as a top top player, and rarely has his form, statistics or anything else backed that up.

Why would Utd want to spend 20-30mil on a ageing player who if you're lucky will get 5 goals 5 assists in the league, on a huge wage.

Number of players that get a move, a big new wage, have one great season then all but give up completely..... is he one of those players, yup. Lazy, over rated, over priced, over paid. He's the opposite of the kind of player Utd should be looking for in midfield, lazy primadonna who isn't actually that good(when they refuse to play a player THAT good because he appears lazy). They need(to really turn into a great team) a Lampard/Gerrard type, driving creative force in midfield who can get 15 goals and 10+ assists a year.
 
Really don't think we need Sneijder. He's too old, had a poor few seasons and far too expensive wage and fee wise given the return you'd get.

I don't really think it'd matter if Hazard were bought as a winger either, he's already miles better than any of our wingers. Nani is going backwards, he's a million miles from Hazard (he can't take corners, he can't take free kicks, he no longer runs at players and he has one good game for every nine poor ones).

Plus when you add into the mix a more mature Cleverley and Welbeck, an improving Hernandez, Pogba coming through, Carrick picking up his form again, plus fringe/all rounders like Giggs, possibly Scholes, possibly Fletcher, Jones and Anderson and Park if they hang around. We don't really need an attacking midfielder - IF we were to buy Hazard. What we need is someone who can actually hold the ball and break down play. Carrick is kind of in the middle of being a relatively good passer and good at breaking down play, right now he needs that Scholes or Cleverley in there to hold the ball in tight areas for him.

Our priorities should be someone who can break down and keep the ball in the middle, a Hazard would be a luxury but a skillful, exciting marquee signing might be what we need, and I personally think we need a right back. The twins don't seem to be progressing all that much.
 
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md85 said:
Really don't think we need Sneijder. He's too old, had a poor few seasons and far too expensive wage and fee wise given the return you'd get.

I don't really think it'd matter if Hazard were bought as a winger either, he's already miles better than any of our wingers. Nani is going backwards, he's a million miles from Hazard (he can't take corners, he can't take free kicks, he no longer runs at players and he has one good game for every nine poor ones).

Plus when you add into the mix a more mature Cleverley and Welbeck, an improving Hernandez, Pogba coming through, Carrick picking up his form again, plus fringe/all rounders like Giggs, possibly Scholes, possibly Fletcher, Jones and Anderson and Park if they hang around. We don't really need an attacking midfielder - IF we were to buy Hazard. What we need is someone who can actually hold the ball and break down play. Carrick is kind of in the middle of being a relatively good passer and good at breaking down play, right now he needs that Scholes or Cleverley in there to hold the ball in tight areas for him.

Our priorities should be someone who can break down and keep the ball in the middle, a Hazard would be a luxury but a skillful, exciting marquee signing might be what we need, and I personally think we need a right back. The twins don't seem to be progressing all that much.
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Agree on Wesley.

I haven't watched too much of Hazard really, Nani when on form is excellent and he's brilliant but he has struggled since the burst at the start of the season. Valencia was also on a roll before the injury, we've dipped as a team since he's been out.

I think a lot of our problem this season in midfield has come from the fact that it just hasn't been stable as to who's going to be playing week in week out with each other. In pre season and the start Anderson & Clev looked great, perhaps too attacking and we were exposed at the back. We've been hit with injuries constantly there and it's not been great. If Scholes sticks around and Anderson gets fit again, I can see us not buying anyone and offloading Park possibly but SAF still likes him evidently. I think if Pogba is to stay with the club he will be promised more appearances too.

The right back position frustrates me more than anything. If fit, Rafael should be playing there over Smalling/Jones for me 100%. They both seem to struggle with injuries but Rafael has hardly been used at all this season and I prefer him than Smalling or Jones at right back, it's frustrating that he's left out even when seemingly fit.

Fabio was playing for the reserves last night, unfortunately he has Patrice to battle for a position and no matter if Pat has a shocking game he won't get dropped!
 
Agree with DM, even at his best a few years ago I always felt Sneider was massively over rated, that season when there was talk of him for the Balon D'or made me question my sanity. He's a good player and no more, has good technique and is quite good to watch but if you watch him closely it quickly shows that he isn't one of the best. For the money he'd cost, his wages and his age it'd be a mental buy. I think Man Utd dodged a bullet
 
Park wont go anywhere this summer, he only signed a new contract last year which expires at the end of next season and given the talk before the new deal about his retirement I fully expect us him to see out that final season and then either call it a day altogether or at least go back to Korea.

As for our midfield I've said all along that I dont think an attacking midfielder is the answer given unlike a lot of teams we play with 2 wingers and 2 strikers. Take someone like Lampard in his prime, the reason he got so many goals from midfield is because Chelsea played a 4-3-3 and always had 2 midfielders back when he burst forward, he was basically given a free role. Stick him in a 2 man midfield with more defensive responsibility he wouldn't of scored as many goals.

As good as the attacking play was early in the season Anderson & Cleverley left us extremely exposed at the back that's why I think another holding player with the ability to pass the ball would be the way to go. Given the lack of goals he actually scores Modric could still possibly be the answer as he could quite easily sit with Carrick deep and dictate play.

I'd like our chances very much if we started next season with the choice of Carrick, Cleverley & someone like Modric/Martinez as first choice being backed up by the likes of Scholes, Giggs, Anderson & if he stays Pogba. Like I said before Dembele would be a nice little signing as well given he's capable of playing just about anywhere in the final 3rd and Fergie likes his players to have that versatility about them
 
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Tom84 said:
As good as the attacking play was early in the season Anderson & Cleverley left us extremely exposed at the back that's why I think another holding player with the ability to pass the ball would be the way to go. Given the lack of goals he actually scores Modric could still possibly be the answer as he could quite easily sit with Carrick deep and dictate play.

I'd like our chances very much if we started next season with the choice of Carrick, Cleverley & someone like Modric/Martinez as first choice being backed up by the likes of Scholes, Giggs, Anderson & if he stays Pogba. Like I said before Dembele would be a nice little signing as well given he's capable of playing just about anywhere in the final 3rd and Fergie likes his players to have that versatility about them
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Sounds like a plan (although Im not sure how much longer SAF will stick with Anderson - although this is based on injury record more than anything else, he has shown promise in individual games /short runs and then gets injured or has a load of crap games). Modric would be great but I cant see it myself (too expensive apart from anything else), and while I love Martinez as a player, I cant see him leaving Spain.

I love Rafael and Fabio as players but have they really improved that much in the last year or so (not helped by injuries admitedly, and Fabio being behind Evra also)? Rafael is a little too cavalier sometimes, willing to attack only to be caught out in defence and not getting back quick enough. I like Smalling / Jones as RB's, but think Jones should be used more as a box-to box midfielder, with Smalling doing RB /centre half duties (long term centre half, but with Vidic and Rio in those places RB is a good covering spot for him imo).
 
Bucket said:
I think Jones should play CB, I don't like him in the midfield or right back, he's not been great there to say the least.
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It also doesn't help that SAF thinks all defenders can play right back without a problem. :o :p

I think Jones should be our long term home grown Vidic replacement. If he turns out to be good enough.
 
As the season has gone on I think Jones has shown he's not quite up to being a centre back yet, that's not a dig at him because he's only just 20 but he's got a lot to learn before he's given that big a role in the side. In the mean time though you can hardly not play a player of his ability so I have no problem sticking him in at RB or when partnered with the right person (Carrick) in midfield.

In terms of the CB pecking order at the moment I'd place him quite a bit behind Rio, Vida, Evans & Smalling.
 
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