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A lot of new players though, will be interesting to see how they fit together.
If bale stays they could even go for the title if they gel...
...or they fail to mix and end up in 5th again
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A lot of new players though, will be interesting to see how they fit together.
If bale stays they could even go for the title if they gel...
...or they fail to mix and end up in 5th again
this would appear to be the case. if it's true and spurs have paid £30m+ that's a bit bonkers imo but if he is on wages of £65k then it's a levy deal. i'm sure liverpool would've paid him more than that so with that into account, if they could've got him on wages of £65k it would've made sense for them to counter bid. he could flop. he could've flat out turned liverpool down. he could sign for someone else.
can us spurs fans now accuse liverpool of going after our targets (lamela)
there has definitely been talk between balidini and his agent and apparent'y we've offered 30m, they want 35m. it'll settle in between if it happens.oh. and if this comes off. it's obvious bale will never play for spurs again. thanks for the memories but spurs fans should be very excited about the future but the optimist in me still feels this could all go **** up.
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Arsenal need a DM and a striker. Fabianski is better than Szczesny, get the number 1 shirt of Szczesny or pay for Begovic.
Lol it sure isn't Bale's money Spurs are spending. RM can't afford him unless they sell the wantaway Ronaldo back to us.
Lol it sure isn't Bale's money Spurs are spending. RM can't afford him unless they sell the wantaway Ronaldo back to us.
that's why i don't believe we'd get him on wages -£100k another thing is spurs favour would be us being in europe and paulinho and sandro. if wants to break into the brazil national team, he'd have a better chance of doing so at spurs.
It's nothing to do with brinkmanship. FSG's whole thinking regarding transfers is value - like with shares, they want to buy low and sell high. They've already been burnt when they've allowed the management freedom on transfers.
Since the new scouting & recruitment team has been put in place the club has been far stricter on this policy and so far it's worked out well. I have no problem with the club refusing to pay over the odds on Willian (or whoever) providing they can pick up deals like the Coutinho and Sturridge deals.
I'd be staggered if he's on £65k per week. If he is then, as Andy says, it would be countered by a big signing on fee. Given that Spurs have already started paying the £100k+ per week wages, I don't believe that your potential record signing is going to accept £65k per week, especially when his last move was motivated by money.
edit: and I'd also be hugely sceptical of any reported interested from us in Roma players (and vice versa). Roma's majority owner & president is a member of FSG (our parent company) - they could very possibly be using our 'interest' in Lamela to force Spurs' hand.
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While Anzi were splashing major cash remember that was mostly to get some serious talent in, Roberto Carlos quite a while back, Eto'o, those guys were utterly established brilliant players coming from the best clubs in the world, it doesn't really matter how good Willian is or isn't, he wasn't remotely close to being able to negotiate a 200k + a week contract. Eto'o would have been on over 150k a week at Inter, Willian wasn't on close to that before he left.
65k sounds, silly but i'd imagine that could include a huge signing on bonus, OR a percentage of his next transfer. IE we'll give you 65k a week, but 5mil extra upfront and 30% of any transfer fee when you eventually try to get a move to Real/Barca/Chelsea/City.
There are loads of ways to work deals, this whole Cesc saga and sell on clause. Barca want a 45-50mil player, they negotiate a deal where by they pay 30mil upfront(and I believe we also got out of giving Cesc a circa 5mil "loyalty" type pay off). If Cesc stays at Barca for life, Barca make out great in the deal, if Cesc moves on after 5 years for 30mil and we get 15mil of that, Arsenal make out on the deal. People take risks for a bigger pay off all the time.
If Willian had a deal like that, lets say he moves to Real for 50mil in two years, he could be receiving 15-20mil of that fee while making 65k a week for two years, or 7mil or so, vs otherwise getting 150k a week for two years and making 15mil outright in wages, but no bonus if he moves on.
He could have had a similar deal setup with Anzi for all we know and could be making a mint off the move already and very happy to do it again with Spurs.
What exactly would happen if after signing all these guys, they expect Bale to sign and seal his move to Real to make most of their cash back.... but bale decides to stick around seeing as the team is so good now. I think Levy would have a heart attack, as might Wenger, and Rodgers.
EDIT:- I'm trying to remember a move maybe 3-4 years ago, maybe even longer, where someone was on a "low" wage but he got a huge signing on bonus to effective have a higher wage. For where a club has some money temporarily but they don't necessarily want big wages on the book going forward.
65k sounds, silly but i'd imagine that could include a huge signing on bonus, OR a percentage of his next transfer. IE we'll give you 65k a week, but 5mil extra upfront and 30% of any transfer fee when you eventually try to get a move to Real/Barca/Chelsea/City.
There are loads of ways to work deals, this whole Cesc saga and sell on clause. Barca want a 45-50mil player, they negotiate a deal where by they pay 30mil upfront(and I believe we also got out of giving Cesc a circa 5mil "loyalty" type pay off). If Cesc stays at Barca for life, Barca make out great in the deal, if Cesc moves on after 5 years for 30mil and we get 15mil of that, Arsenal make out on the deal. People take risks for a bigger pay off all the time.
If Willian had a deal like that, lets say he moves to Real for 50mil in two years, he could be receiving 15-20mil of that fee while making 65k a week for two years, or 7mil or so, vs otherwise getting 150k a week for two years and making 15mil outright in wages, but no bonus if he moves on.
He could have had a similar deal setup with Anzi for all we know and could be making a mint off the move already and very happy to do it again with Spurs.
What exactly would happen if after signing all these guys, they expect Bale to sign and seal his move to Real to make most of their cash back.... but bale decides to stick around seeing as the team is so good now. I think Levy would have a heart attack, as might Wenger, and Rodgers.
EDIT:- I'm trying to remember a move maybe 3-4 years ago, maybe even longer, where someone was on a "low" wage but he got a huge signing on bonus to effective have a higher wage. For where a club has some money temporarily but they don't necessarily want big wages on the book going forward.
I think Crouch and Jones took pay cuts to go to Stoke with big signing on fees
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Looks like Bale is finally off then.
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I really hope he flops, it would be hilarious.
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The Metro is hardly a reliable source. Also how is Coentrao only worth £7mil
that's Andre Santos money!I agree. I'd have loved to see Willian playing for us, but not at the risk of having another £30m flop on our hands. The previous transfer debacles effectively cost us a season and a half, so it's good that FSG are managing it properly, without completely tying Brendan Rodgers's hands.
£45m would be decent but you just know, he'll get fit at Arsenal and the score against us and Arsenal may even beat us then
Realistically, you will have to try for Rooney, he's the only proven striker in the PL left that Arsenal could get and need. After that lame bid for Cabaye, for a player Arsenal don't need, I don't think Arsenal realise who they need. I blame Kroenke and your board, not Wenger.
Sorry but i dont honestly think the board has anything to do with which players we need to go for or should be going for. At the end of the day its Wenger who is the manager, he does the training sessions, he picks the team to play every week so in theory he should be the one that knows exactly what sort of player or players we need. And right now, from where im standing it seems like he hasnt got a damn clue.
We dont need Cabaye so i cannot see why on earth we would make a bid for him and a stupid cheap ass bid at that. We need a DM and a striker...those are the 2 main positions we should be buying for and possibly a CB, goalkeeper and RB.
Some 'lovely' replies from Liverpool fans to Willian's latest tweet.
Liverpool fans or a couple of kids on twitter? I'm sure if we look through the mentions of Liverpool or City players we'll see plenty of 'lovely' messages sent to them by Utd fans
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Didn't the Man City board buy Sinclair and Rodwell without Mancini's input and Bebe was bought for United without SAF seeing how he played.
The £40m+£1 was the stupidest, think the board made the Suarez and Cabaye bids without Wenger's knowledge. Sanogo seems Wenger's signings and any other bid that goes for players is decided by the board.
If Wenger leaves, who's going to replace him!
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