Summer Transfer Window 2017/18 - Rumours & Signings

drunkenmaster said:
Again though it's worth realising how much money he'll bring to wherever he goes via sponsorship and new fans.
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Not entirely sure this is relevant in CR's case

All his sponsorships are mature and have been going for years not sure if Utd can claim to grow those significantly ( not like Pogba who is still pretty young and the Italian teams don't get the world wide media the Epl does)

Adidas won't be interested in pushing a very well known Nike athlete - those that have any interest will already know this - and in all liklihood this Man Utd deal will still have years to go by the time CR leaves
CHEVY - CR may not have a clash with a personal sponsor here, but hard to see how the club can get mega money out of CHEVY mid-deal

There are of course a lot of other club sponsors but majority are relatively minor in comparison

Media uplift, will be hard to quantify before signing the deal - Utd will get more views on match days because of CL commitments anyway, and potentially more from signing morata? Lindelof? Etc hard to identify whether it's combination of these or just attraction of CR alone

For a young star like Lindelof, bailly or even morata this is a huge bargaining chip on the club's side, I think it's a lot harder when it's someone already at the top of many markets

From a sporting side - winter break over there is 4 weeks or something? Not to mention he is now playing something like 25 league games a season at far less intensity, is he going to manage even 25 including playing Christmas and new year + CL
 
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The one question mark you could have with Ronaldo isn't so much picking up injuries but how he adapts to losing his pace. Ronaldo hasn't got the technical ability that Messi has but what puts Ronaldo on the same level is his physicality, his pace and power. Obviously he's still a hugely talented player but without the physical dominance he has over players it becomes much harder to justify the sort of money it will take to sign him.

Anyway, are we actually taking this seriously now? I'd be shocked if anything comes of this - Ronaldo's forever kicking up a fuss and flirting with other clubs only to get a better deal for himself at Real.
 
Yeah, some newspaper articles were suggesting that his commercial impact at United would be limited compared to if he signed for a team that makes less money globally and has more scope for expansion. United make so much money already that the percentage difference he can have would apparently be quite small, plus we've leveraged pretty much every aspect of the commercial side we already can and are already globally the most widely supported club. It might make more of a difference if United were close to renewing one of their major sponsorship deals because they could point to Ronaldo and his marketability and get a better deal from that sponsor, but most of our sponsorship deals are years off from being renewed.

edit: Baz I agree, I don't think it's going to happen. I'm just talking hypothetically and hoping that United don't waste their time chasing it. I'd rather Real just put the rumours to bed and United get on with the transfers they were already looking to seal.
 
nicktay2605 said:
Yeah, some newspaper articles were suggesting that his commercial impact at United would be limited compared to if he signed for a team that makes less money globally and has more scope for expansion. United make so much money already that the percentage difference he can have would apparently be quite small, plus we've leveraged pretty much every aspect of the commercial side we already can and are already globally the most widely supported club. It might make more of a difference if United were close to renewing one of their major sponsorship deals because they could point to Ronaldo and his marketability and get a better deal from that sponsor, but most of our sponsorship deals are years off from being renewed.

edit: Baz I agree, I don't think it's going to happen. I'm just talking hypothetically and hoping that United don't waste their time chasing it. I'd rather Real just put the rumours to bed and United get on with the transfers they were already looking to seal.
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The percentage difference makes absolutely no difference. If he brings in 50mil more a season and costs 150mil, if he stays for 4 years the deal makes profit completely ignoring his impact on the team. Meanwhile if he cost 250mil or he brought in 30mil a year then he wouldn't make a direct profit. If that 50mil is 3% increase or 150% increase of the clubs commercial revenue doesn't matter, only as his income relates to making the deal worthwhile or not.

In terms of his technicality, meh, he doesn't use his dribbling that much simply as he's more effective in other ways, the idea he is not brilliant technically is daft. He doesn't dribble often in as tight areas as Messi does and wouldn't be as good as it, but that is a single aspect of football, not all of it. He's got great passing, brilliant shooting(which is not physicality but technical), his positioning, movement(regardless of speed), his brain in terms of knowing where to be and when, his ability to change direction at speed is pretty much unmatched in football. The fact is he isn't slowing down though, anyone who watches the 40-50 yard bursts he makes.

I don't think too much would happen in terms of him moving, but it's more possible than people think imo, though I don't particularly feel Utd would get him nor would it be the best place for Ronaldo, frankly I think he wants to go to a better team. he surely can't have seen Mourinho at Real, getting fired for a poor third year and failing to even reach a CL final then with mostly the same players the same team managers 3CL's in 4 years. TO me as a player I'd think that means Mourinho underperforms and they have a far worse squad to begin with. It wouldn't be my choice in terms of wanting to join another league to win things.

For the prem league, Chelsea or City, Bayern in Germany, Juve in Italy or going to a daft league for the huge huge money.
 
ThestigGT999 said:
Blaise Matuidi to Manchester United ???
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The first rumour (on Sat if I remember rightly) suggested we offered 60m for him.....I think that suggests where this has come from!!

He is a decent player, and for silly (low) wages at EPL standards, he is a reasonable bet - and given 1 year left on his existing contract he should be relatively cheap. But given his age he is likely to be a very short term fix for a major position so I dont buy it.
 
drunkenmaster said:
For the prem league, Chelsea or City, Bayern in Germany, Juve in Italy or going to a daft league for the huge huge money.
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Chelsea , Bayern or Juve would actually prove very little - which from whats coming out is what he wants to do IF he leaves

Its also questionable whether even Chelsea or Juve could afford to do the deal without failing FFP pretty heavily (Juve could only afford Higuain after selling Pogba last season according to all reports).

Maybe Chelsea could "hide" debt somehow while it comes out of RA's pocketbook, but given how often CR has said he still loves SAF and MU I cant see it being likely (and would they really be willing to give up Hazard, even if he is injured for a relatively short term fix like CR to help balance the books)?

Bayern have already said today they arent interested, so I cant see them backtracking (not to mention they are probably the least in need of him).

From a league stand point I guess either Germany or France makes sense - add another Euro title or two to the collection , and if he went to an underdog that migth get him the love and respect he is after? PSG really wouldnt prove much, maybe helping Monaco defend the title they just won , have a similar lifestyle he is used to and maybe even get them to a CL final might get him all the respect he craves?

drunkenmaster said:
If he brings in 50mil more a season and costs 150mil,.
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FYI - even if his transfer fee costs £150m (which is the approximate most ~realistic~ figure quoted) he will also cost the best part of £50m a season in wages (400k net, 800k gross = approx 41m /year) not to mention bonuses etc etc

Which means he would have to make £100m extra before even starting to balance the books on a 3 year deal - even Ronaldo would struggle to do that (let alone how any club would monetise that with all the other changes over a summer with a superstar like CR who has everything nailed down already)
 
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Lol French media sending our supporters into a frenzy claiming were in for aubamayang we would have no choice of getting him even if was remotely true
 
Mark1989 said:
Lol French media sending our supporters into a frenzy claiming were in for aubamayang we would have no choice of getting him even if was remotely true
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Whats happened to Aubamayang - it was strange how PSG appeared all set to sign him and then cancelled everything at the last minute.
Strange how few people are seemingly interested in him.


Rumours coming out that brazilian youngster (23yo) Talisca is on his way to Utd for around £22m - did well on loan at Bssiktas but Benfica actually the parent club.
Seems a strange one, in that supposedly there were 4 core signings and only one has been signed and No 10 is probably where Utd are overflowing at the moment, even after Rooney departs (Mhki, Lingard, Mata all prefer playing that position)
Good to have choice I guess and wages shouldnt be too bad either
 
Having Zlatan off the books will free up quite a bit of money but the big one we should be rid of at the end of next season will be Rooney. Lets be honest, he knows he has fallen off a cliff performance wise and he ain't going to China. The only place I can see him moving after next season is MLS but he will see out his final year at United to get as much money as he can. Shame that this is how his career will end but its kind of his own fault.
 
Only thing I've seen regarding Talisca is him saying he wants to move to us. For some reason every summer half the players in Portugal get linked with us.
 
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