Summer Transfer Window 22/23

Is anyone really expecting United to buy the correct players in accordance with a plan and early in the window, for a sensible price? What in recent history (regarding new players) suggests this will be the case?

Also, don't forget that players seem to decline when they join United. I'd say we need to be prepared for things to get worse before they get better. Anything else is a bonus.

We also need to stop comparing United to the well run teams.

Well Woodward is gone and different people are in charge of various things now. That in itself should be cause for optimism even if it may turn out to be misplaced in the end.

My hope was the club would be ruthless in going after Ten Hag's transfer targets but that doesn't seem to have happened so far. Frenkie de Jong would be the player the entire team is built around, who cares if it's €60m or €80m, they need to be backing Ten Hag properly.

It is still early days though and I don't think the international games make things any easier.
 
As long as we've signed some players by the time preseason starts I'm alright. It doesn't need to be done on the opening days of the window. If three weeks time we're in the same position then I'll be mad.

You say it doesn't matter if we spend 60m or 80m (although in fact they seem to be wanting 100m) but surely that is one of the reasons we're in the position we are because we keep overspending? 20-40m here and there overspent means we're missing out on entire players in other positions that we need.
 
As long as we've signed some players by the time preseason starts I'm alright. It doesn't need to be done on the opening days of the window. If three weeks time we're in the same position then I'll be mad.

You say it doesn't matter if we spend 60m or 80m (although in fact they seem to be wanting 100m) but surely that is one of the reasons we're in the position we are because we keep overspending? 20-40m here and there overspent means we're missing out on entire players in other positions that we need.

We're in the position we are in due to a massive lack of planning, we've spent fortunes on players who haven't done well. I don't see a problem with paying a bit more to secure critical players for the new manager. Our negotiations normally end up with us paying the higher price in the end anyway.

I hope it's all going to be different now, but we'll see. As you say, no reason to worry for another 2-3 weeks at least.
 
Is anyone really expecting United to buy the correct players in accordance with a plan and early in the window, for a sensible price? What in recent history (regarding new players) suggests this will be the case?

Also, don't forget that players seem to decline when they join United. I'd say we need to be prepared for things to get worse before they get better. Anything else is a bonus.

We also need to stop comparing United to the well run teams.

Uniteds biggest issue for years has been a complete lack of transfer strategy and quite often not even buying the right players for the football we want to play at that specific point in time, let alone 2 years down the line. I mean, Sancho was an awful signing if you actually wanted to get the best from him. United and Dortmund don't even play remotely similar styles of football. AwB is a cracking defender if you are dug in and want someone to nullify one side against pacey dribblers but for a team expected to be on top in most games hes cack.

Who knows how this summer will end with transfers but I'm not even slightly worried at this point. I think we have already got the most important person signed up and I trust him to get the best out of what we have and to pursue the right players for his system. I'm optimistic for the first time in years.
 
After 10 years of false dawns I can't muster much optimism. Happy to be proved wrong though.

If they can't get the right pIayers I'd rather they didn't buy anyone, but clearly this won't be the case. They'll panic and shoe horn in another square peg into a round hole if it comes to that.

It's bonkers that City got Haaland so cheap. United would have paid £200mill somehow.
 
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You know that a) there was a release clause and b) just how much they've shelled out to his dad/agent etc?
I know of a) yes. That still doesn't mean that United wouldn't have found a way to over pay. I'm sure I don't need to spell out how they could have achieved this.
 
I know of a) yes. That still doesn't mean that United wouldn't have found a way to over pay. I'm sure I don't need to spell out how they could have achieved this.
As comical as you lot are I struggle to think that even you would pay more than someone's release clause...
 
As comical as you lot are I struggle to think that even you would pay more than someone's release clause...
Go take a look at Utd's signing of Fellaini. He too had a clause and Utd spent so long trying to negotiate the fee down, the clause expired and Utd ended up having to pay more! Never underestimate Utd's incompetence in the transfer market.

And on the Nunez/Haaland who will score debate. I can't see Nunez starting week in week out for us, at least not in the first few months. Barring the odd player who's been thrown straight into the side, Klopp likes to bed players into the side fairly slowly. It's a similar story with Pep to be fair but I suspect that won't be the case with Haaland.
 
Go take a look at Utd's signing of Fellaini. He too had a clause and Utd spent so long trying to negotiate the fee down, the clause expired and Utd ended up having to pay more! Never underestimate Utd's incompetence in the transfer market.
I remember that all to well, very funny.
 
I believe the Fellaini fee was in the region of £10-15m more than his release fee only 3-4 weeks previously. United are such penny pinchers when it comes to transfers. I get it’s not pennies these days but £5m being the difference between getting a player who will get you champions league and not, it’s worth paying. Even £10m is.
 
I believe the Fellaini fee was in the region of £10-15m more than his release fee only 3-4 weeks previously. United are such penny pinchers when it comes to transfers. I get it’s not pennies these days but £5m being the difference between getting a player who will get you champions league and not, it’s worth paying. Even £10m is.
A little under 5 million extra they paid wasn't it, release clause was around 23mill I think
 
As comical as you lot are I struggle to think that even you would pay more than someone's release clause...

Easy. Delay, chase other players, fail and end up going for him after he's signed a new contract.

Look how many players we over paid for. Maguire? Fred? Who else? Varane? I'm not saying they all had releases triggered I'm saying we're poor in the market. This is obvious.

With the changes of management personnel you'd hope things will now change but your guess is as good as mine. How many times have United turned that corner?
 
To be fair in this instance, we'd likely have paid Haaland's clause without much fuss. Fellaini isn't quite the same pedigree...!

Release clause aside though, I suspect the other costs of the Haaland deal are eye-watering.
 
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