Summer Transfer Window 22/23

Rudiger has had one solid season, no one was talking positively about him before this season. £200K a week is laughable tbh.

In fact, I seem to remember him being trash pre Tuchel.

Yea very much recency bias. I dont think he's close enough to be demanding the money he is.

Think he will move next summer. Fingers crossed United aren't such a mess at that point and we can persuade him to join us.

Still very young and Dortmund don't need to sell.

Im not sure Dortmund would sell both Haaland and Bellingham but I obviously have him Liverpool bound ;).

The more I see of this Nunez everyones linked with the more i wouldnt want my club anywhere near him.
 
You had 11 players on the pitch and didn't look good :p

Now you say that but I am starting to think that we actually don't at times. I am going to do a head count next game just to make sure. It feels like we are at least a man short in defence midfield and attack so I'm expecting to only be able to find 8 players in red next game.
 
Yea very much recency bias. I dont think he's close enough to be demanding the money he is.



Im not sure Dortmund would sell both Haaland and Bellingham but I obviously have him Liverpool bound ;).

The more I see of this Nunez everyones linked with the more i wouldnt want my club anywhere near him.
What's wrong with Nunez
 
Apparently Mbappe is about to sign a new 2 year contract at PSG for £42.5m/year and an £85m signing on fee. God damn. Thats a weekly wage of £1.6m. They still won't win the CL either :p
 
Apparently Mbappe is about to sign a new 2 year contract at PSG for £42.5m/year and an £85m signing on fee. God damn. Thats a weekly wage of £1.6m. They still won't win the CL either :p
Absolutely disgusting amount of money.

How exactly can PSG afford this legitimately?
 
Legitimately? They can’t. But given FFP is pointless and UEFA have been shown to be toothless in punishing teams, PSG can more or less do what they like.
 
Mbappe is costing PSG £170m odd but the moment he puts pen to paper on his contract his value increases by £170m. It's not as crazy as it seems.
 
Mbappe is costing PSG £170m odd but the moment he puts pen to paper on his contract his value increases by £170m. It's not as crazy as it seems.

How does that work?

I think I understand your logic but I'm not sure it makes sense.

Mbappe is going to get £85m and a salary of £800k/week. Even if PSG then immediately sold him for £120m (which is unlikely because who has that money) Mbappe wouldn't find anyone willing to match his £800k/week salary so why would he agree to the move.

PSG just want him to stay and they will spend the next 2 years trying to persuade him to sign another contract. He won't and they will be in this same position in 2 years and perhaps Mbappe will take a bit of a pay cut to move clubs.

Mbappe wins here no matter what. He will still only be 25 at the end of the extension.
 
FFP is based on accounting results, that is why clubs like Barcelona essentially swapped Arthur and Pjanic. Because they could report the income in full and then spread the cost over the life of Pjanic's contract to make their accounts look better.
 
How does that work?

I think I understand your logic but I'm not sure it makes sense.

Mbappe is going to get £85m and a salary of £800k/week. Even if PSG then immediately sold him for £120m (which is unlikely because who has that money) Mbappe wouldn't find anyone willing to match his £800k/week salary so why would he agree to the move.

PSG just want him to stay and they will spend the next 2 years trying to persuade him to sign another contract. He won't and they will be in this same position in 2 years and perhaps Mbappe will take a bit of a pay cut to move clubs.

Mbappe wins here no matter what. He will still only be 25 at the end of the extension.
You say nobody would pay him that but what do you think Real, Juve and Utd have paid Ronaldo or Barca were paying Messi? It's huge money and money only a handful of clubs can and will pay but somebody will pay it. He's going to be the biggest star in world football and the best player in the world too. They're paying £170m to get/keep a £200m+ player.
Baz is talking about accounting practices I believe, so Mbappe's 'asset' value will increase if he signs a new contract.
Not entirely. From an accounting/ffp point of view the benefit will only be if and when they sell him but I was talking about his actual value. Yes, Mbappe is going to cost a fortune for PSG to keep but they're getting the best centre forward in the world and somebody who is or will soon become the biggest star in world football.

They stand to lose him for nothing and to replace him will end up costing them a total package of £200m+. For example if they wanted to replace him, who could they get of comparable ability? Salah, Haaland etc - they're going to end up having to pay £100m+ for Salah or £65m + huge wages and commission for Haaland. The total cost to PSG will be more than giving Mbappe what he wants to stay.
 
How does that help with FFP? Genuine question.
Giving him this contract in isolation doesn't help with FFP. The decision to give him the contract is a football and financial decision separate from FFP. As I said above, it would cost them more to replace him so it makes sense to give him that.

The possible FFP benefit would be in a year or so time if they were then to sell him. Mbappe's value on the books will now be single digit millions, if that so any figure they were to sell him for would be almost entirely profit on the books. So for example, they keep him for one season then he's cost them £120m odd to stay on this years accounts but a sale of £150m in 12 months would be recorded as profit on next seasons accounts - overall a £30m profit across the two seasons.
I don't know much about FFP rules, but i would imagine that a revaluation of an asset (Mbappe), would be able to be classed as "Other Income" in the P&L and thus inflate the profits they report in that year.

Effectively the opposite of depreciation of an asset.
I'm 99.999% certain that they can't do this within FFP. As above, the only FFP benefit would be if they were to then sell him in a year.
 
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