Sunday Times to investigate OLED Screen Burn Issues

[purplesky]

I sent my second CX back because of banding. First one was dead on arrival, but third panel has been flawless.

HBO max stuff is highly compressed down. Notice crap even on LCD panels on various colours. Bit different when you watch a 80gb blu ray to a 20gb streamed one. Mad Max and Blade Runner 2049 are good ones to test. Watch the uhd disk version then a uhd streaming version and you will see what I mean.

Not really worth buying an OLED for the majority of people as they don't watch UHD content in the main and are happy with highly compressed streaming services.
BTW, HBO max is only really good for watching that old sitcom "Step By Step", something that 99.9% people in the UK haven't even heard of as it was only ever shown briefly on itv in the mid-90s for a few weeks. Shame HBO max isn't available in the UK either.

 

[Simmz]

Of course it's each to their own and cost limitations as well. However, most people who have never seen an OLED screen when they finally do are usually astounded by how good it is. I have a 112gb remastered Avatar 4000cd/m2 version of the movie and the quality is absolutely jaw dropping. Makes normal uhd blu ray disks look bad ​

 

[AORUS]

Games with HUDS prominent on screen?

New gamers only use the HUD because they can't play the game without it. Adults gamers turn it off

I'd rather not have to baby my screen and just enjoy it. For gaming I therefore use LCD. The idea that everyone has the same use for a screen as you do is moronic, not people using screens however they want to.
Also JL got rid of burn in protection did they not?

I don't baby my screen far from it, I know you're a Linus Youtuber fan after wise you wouldn't attack me! You won't convince people/gamers not to buy OLED using back up old data to state your calm on new OLED's, as for JL Protect+ insurance they are still running it

Best to stick with your LCD

lol what an idiot (linus that is)

Be careful, there fan in the room

 

[panthro]

I got a 55 B6 in 2017 from Curry's. In the last year the screen burn is so noticeable its horrendous but I've never raised the issue as its well outside the original warranty.

 

[Simmz]

Sadly the panels have come a long way since the B6 and B7. Can hold hand up up and say these models did suffer with burn in after a few years on a fair few, however it is a lot less common now and sadly OLED slaps LCD up. Samsung wouldn't be going down their hybrid route otherwise.

 

[purplesky]

Too many people I know have been scared away from OLED due to screen burn. No matter how much the technology has improved over the last couple of years, there are still people reporting problems. OLED does look great with the right source, but the wow factor dissipates once you've adjusted to it.
I've personally got no interest in OLED anyway because there's hardly anything worth watching to justify the expense.

 

[Simmz]

Again, that comes down to your setup, because there's plenty of content worth buying one for it. But if you are happy with streaming and LCD then it's all good, plus a top end LCD is the same price pretty much anyway. I've no gripes anyway with what people decide, just don't like some of the scaremongering comments I sometimes see from people who've never owned one.

Will be interesting to see what the next thing to come is anyway, as OLED is getting pushed to its limit now on the current technology.

I just wish a Kaleidescape Strato S didn't cost so much money, that would be the next purchase otherwise

 

[Psycho Sonny]

I'd buy an OLED if I could be guaranteed not to get image retention or screen burn. The idea you are a moron if you leave static images on it is hilarious. I have a wife and a 10 month old baby who will watch stuff with logos on it with no idea it will damage screen if done for a long period of time. Said wife will just leave the tv running whilst her and the baby are in the kitchen and nobody is watching the tv.

I'd rather just play it safe until they bring out a tech that doesn't need to be babied. I have had plasma before and I don't want to go down the same road again. I am well aware of the pitfalls of every technology I have weighed it up and for me OLED won't work in it's current state.

I do want a new tv for downstairs though. Bedroom got the latest upgrade so itching to do downstairs now but I'm waiting for something special to come out or worthwhile. It's a top end 4K HDR set already downstairs so not exactly begging to be upgraded but tech has moved on from 5 years ago.

 

[LuckyBenski]

I regularly walk away from my TV on the PC desktop (standard desktop setup, none of this hiding nonsense) and go do chores. The TV has tons of protection features and options. Just set it up to not be prone to burn-in... Don't max the brightness out for no reason, don't disable the screen dimming and screen saver, etc.

I put between 6 and 15 hours a day onto my TV, lots of gaming with static UI, lots of broadcast TV, lots of video, some desktop work. Also a lot of Twitch mod console so lots and lots of very contrasty panels that are static for 3-4 hours. I never worry about it.

When I had a plasma I DID worry about that, and would turn it off rather than pause if going to the toilet. I didn't want that anxiety again, and expected it when I got this OLED. But it soon settled and now I don't consider it.

 

[AORUS]

I'd buy an OLED if I could be guaranteed not to get image retention or screen burn. The idea you are a moron if you leave static images on it is hilarious. I have a wife and a 10 month old baby who will watch stuff with logos on it with no idea it will damage screen if done for a long period of time. Said wife will just leave the tv running whilst her and the baby are in the kitchen and nobody is watching the tv. I'd rather just play it safe until they bring out a tech that doesn't need to be babied. I have had plasma before and I don't want to go down the same road again. I am well aware of the pitfalls of every technology I have weighed it up and for me OLED won't work in it's current state. I do want a new tv for downstairs though. Bedroom got the latest upgrade so itching to do downstairs now but I'm waiting for something special to come out or worthwhile. It's a top end 4K HDR set already downstairs so not exactly begging to be upgraded but tech has moved on from 5 years ago.

First image retention starts before permeant screen burn, OLED's haven't been out that long like LCD/plasma the next new technology would be MircoLED but again nothing is guaranteed it too might have image retention or not! When RTing.com tested old OLEDs at the time with a panel life of 36/40,000 hours and they showed after 20hour a day with allots of static on screen had permeant screen burn not ideal TV/gaming use sales. But as LG moved on maybe that was one of the reasons why LG put screen burn features on the newer OLEDs because of sales lost over the years the newer OLED's from 2019-2021 had 100,000 hours panel life, RTing.com 2019 running the TV over 9,000hours 5 years use with no screen burn as yet. That's why LG, Sony, stated at the time they don't guaranteed screen burn has it's a user problem and not panel fault.

But now LG, G1 65inch & Z1 77/88inch got a 5 year OLED warranty Burn-in Covered by LG.

 

[AORUS]

Too many people I know have been scared away from OLED due to screen burn. No matter how much the technology has improved over the last couple of years, there are still people reporting problems. OLED does look great with the right source, but the wow factor dissipates once you've adjusted to it. I've personally got no interest in OLED anyway because there's hardly anything worth watching to justify the expense.

The OLED technology have moved on, but people haven't, there's allots of TV shows/movies on Netflix, Disney plus & other streaming channels with 4K Dolby vision

 

[Psycho Sonny]

The OLED technology have moved on, but people haven't, there's allots of TV shows/movies on Netflix, Disney plus & other streaming channels with 4K Dolby vision

All of which can be enjoyed on any half decent TV.

Do you feel the same way about Dolby Atmos and have a real 7.1.2/4 Atmos system?

 

[TALON1973]

I got a 55 B6 in 2017 from Curry's. In the last year the screen burn is so noticeable its horrendous but I've never raised the issue as its well outside the original warranty.

Call lg… They will quote you a replacement screen. My B7 is £200

 

[AORUS]

All of which can be enjoyed on any half decent TV.

4K TV= Grey black in HDR, 4K Nano = Black HDR, 4/8K OLED =Ink Black no change in HDR/Dolby vision so not the same in black levels or PQ nothing can beat OLED image has for now the sound has nothing to do with PQ what I'm talking about that's another topic, didn't you say I'd buy an OLED if I could be guaranteed Then Buy the G1.

 

[TALON1973]

I’m trying to work out if @AORUS is claiming screen burn is my issue going by his posts ??? My use is diverse…. iTunes movies, 4k disc, YouTube and Xbox gaming…. I don’t expect burn in from shared use over 3 years.

 

[LuckyBenski]

I’m trying to work out if @AORUS is claiming screen burn is my issue going by his posts ??? My use is diverse…. iTunes movies, 4k disc, YouTube and Xbox gaming…. I don’t expect burn in from shared use over 3 years.

Don't worry, he never makes any sense and he only comes to these forums to rant about how much he loves OLEDs. Now Sonny has arrived we can expect this thread to become a ****show as they both shout louder and louder about how they know best.

 

[savagesam117]

Don't worry, he never makes any sense and he only comes to these forums to rant about how much he loves OLEDs. Now Sonny has arrived we can expect this thread to become a ****show as they both shout louder and louder about how they know best.

 

[purplesky]

My point is that I, like the majority of people, don't need an OLED for typical casual viewing. There are indeed many streaming services, but that doesn't equate to top quality programming, and most people just blindly flick through different content out of boredom and end up disappointed. This isn't going to be enough for the masses to want to spend more money on a TV with known issues taking into account typical viewing habits.

To be honest, I'd much rather watch good content at PAL 576i on a CRT than a modern crap overly bland movie at 4k on an OLED.

 

[AORUS]

Don't worry, he never makes any sense and he only comes to these forums to rant about how much he loves OLEDs.

Attacking me again No experience seems more common in social media practice than having one’s grammar corrected when making any sense. Secure people do not correct other people’s words/grammar unless they are grammar police

Now Sonny has arrived we can expect this thread to become a ****show as they both shout louder and louder about how they know best.

Again it's opinions/rants/trolls/grammar police etc.. why do we have too follow one path? Why not bring something different to the thread in a peaceful way without asterisk all the time

I’m trying to work out if @AORUS is claiming screen burn is my issue going by his posts ??? My use is diverse…. iTunes movies, 4k disc, YouTube and Xbox gaming…. I don’t expect burn in from shared use over 3 years.

Why go over & over on the same topic! Are you bored

 

[Grim5]

Of course it's each to their own and cost limitations as well. However, most people who have never seen an OLED screen when they finally do are usually astounded by how good it is. I have a 112gb remastered Avatar 4000cd/m2 version of the movie and the quality is absolutely jaw dropping. Makes normal uhd blu ray disks look bad ​

That's because bluray is bad, any compression is bad