Supplements the debate/discussion thread

^TANK^ · 12 Dec 2011 at 21:11

icecold said:
That doesn't mean you want low fat anything in your diet. Fats are not bad for you.

Strength training doesn't mean you need less protein, but it does mean you should squat outside of a smith

Would you suggest whacking another tin of tuna in the mix for lunch and dinner then?

icecold · 12 Dec 2011 at 21:30

It still doesn't make for good strength training. Take a look at the training logs over on http://sugdenbarbell.co.uk/forum the strongest guys in the country post there, and I bet you won't find one that uses a smith machine.

I'd say you probably need more than just one tin of tuna. Can you add anything for breakfast? Eggs? Sausages? Bacon? Fish? Protein shake?

^TANK^ · 12 Dec 2011 at 21:35

How about for breakfast six organic eggs and one tin of tuna in oil with two tomatoes?

^TANK^ · 12 Dec 2011 at 21:40

icecold said:
It still doesn't make for good strength training. Take a look at the training logs over on http://sugdenbarbell.co.uk/forum the strongest guys in the country post there, and I bet you won't find one that uses a smith machine.

I'm worried about going parallel and having a nasty accident, a smith machine is better than nothing.

icecold · 12 Dec 2011 at 21:49

^TANK^ said:
How about for breakfast six organic eggs and one tin of tuna in oil with two tomatoes?

Much better

^TANK^ said:
I'm worried about going parallel and having a nasty accident, a smith machine is better than nothing.

You can't have an accident with a power rack or a rack with catchers. Hitting parallel is easier without a smith. Just start out light and work up slowly. Seriously, you won't regret doing them with a proper bar

^TANK^ · 12 Dec 2011 at 21:51

icecold said:
Much better

You can't have an accident with a power rack or a rack with catchers. Hitting parallel is easier without a smith. Just start out light and work up slowly. Seriously, you won't regret doing them with a proper bar

Ok I'll give it a go

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LiE · 12 Dec 2011 at 21:51

Is this based on a past experience? Sqautting feels so good and natural when done right, it will give you confidence. I don't ever worry when I'm under the bar.

Skillmister · 12 Dec 2011 at 21:53

One time when the gym is empty i need to test dumping the bar onto the catchers then i'll feel much more comfortable at the heavier weights

^TANK^ · 12 Dec 2011 at 22:02

LiE said:
Is this based on a past experience? Squatting feels so good and natural when done right, it will give you confidence. I don't ever worry when I'm under the bar.

Just lack of confidence and an uncomfortable position for the bar to be sat on my shoulders.

blairw · 12 Dec 2011 at 22:16

Iirc you are a fairly big guy tank? That diet to me does not seem to have enough in it, and you may find you lack energy during your workout / become more prone to snacking. What are your aims?

^TANK^ · 12 Dec 2011 at 22:21

blairw said:
Iirc you are a fairly big guy tank? That diet to me does not seem to have enough in it, and you may find you lack energy during your workout / become more prone to snacking. What are your aims?

Strength.

Dj_Jestar · 12 Dec 2011 at 22:22

Posted this in Gym Rats thread completely forgetting this thread exists

Which of these three?

Gaspari MyoFusion 2.27kg @ £35
MyProtein Impact Blend Deluxe 2.25kg @ £28
"Whey Protein" from H&B 908g @ £15 (discount)

Or other?

I'm only looking for protein. Carbs, fats, others I'm already getting enough of.

blairw · 12 Dec 2011 at 22:30

^TANK^ said:
Strength.

How much is that diet coming out at? Seems pretty low to me, under 2000kcals surely?

^TANK^ · 12 Dec 2011 at 22:31

blairw said:
How much is that diet coming out at? Seems pretty low to me, under 2000kcals surely?

I don't want to bulk/clean bulk.

blairw · 12 Dec 2011 at 22:47

I'm not saying you don't, but if you are going to be training for strength, lifting large weights, I'm not sure what you have put down is going to provide enough for you. Just me 2 cents really

^TANK^ · 12 Dec 2011 at 23:07

blairw said:
I'm not saying you don't, but if you are going to be training for strength, lifting large weights, I'm not sure what you have put down is going to provide enough for you. Just me 2 cents really

I know what you're saying I have only ever lifted for fun and have never taken the diet side of it very seriously.

Is this looking any better?

Breakfast
-Three Seven Seas Joint Care Capsules
-Small bowl of Ready Brek with one diced banana (on rest days)
-Glass of fruit juice with MP Creatine Gluconate, MP Glutamine.
-Six eggs and one tin of tuna in oil with tomatoes (on training days)

Lunch
-50g of whole grain pasta with a green salad, one chicken breast, one tin of tuna in oil and low fat cottage cheese.
-One low fat yoghurt and an apple.

Dinner
-Mixed vegetable stir fry with one chicken breast and one tin of tuna in oil, with 50g of whole grain rice.

blairw · 12 Dec 2011 at 23:13

Yeah I'd say that is much more suitable, but I will let one of the more experienced guys have a look at it.. Try running it through thedailyburn website, getting more of a feel of how much it comes out at.

Steedie · 13 Dec 2011 at 07:42

TANK, sorry if you've already said mate, had a quick scan but couldn't see...

What are your goals now? Because if it's to continue those massive lifts of yours, then that really isn't enough

Even as a cutting diet, that would be too low. I'm happy to help you out adjusting it though

tlrBeta · 13 Dec 2011 at 08:49

Not saying I am full of knowledge here but surely 6 eggs is a bit over the top?

I couldn't even imagine trying to eat 6 eggs at once!

Steedie · 13 Dec 2011 at 08:54

Depends how you eat them

I eat a 4 egg omelette every morning, which is really filling. Yet on the rare occasion I eat a fried breakfast at the weekend, I can quite easily polish off 7-8 fried eggs!