Supplements the debate/discussion thread

tlrBeta · 13 Dec 2011 at 09:18

Steedie said:
Depends how you eat them

I eat a 4 egg omelette every morning, which is really filling. Yet on the rare occasion I eat a fried breakfast at the weekend, I can quite easily polish off 7-8 fried eggs!

A 4 egg omelette would be fine, though 7-8 fried eggs....dear me.

Please can you go into London and take this breakfast challenge:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1215745/Could-biggest-English-breakfast-world.html

Ultra_Extreme · 13 Dec 2011 at 12:49

tlrBeta said:
Not saying I am full of knowledge here but surely 6 eggs is a bit over the top?

I couldn't even imagine trying to eat 6 eggs at once!

Cracks me up when people come out with stuff like this, once when i was on around 20 eggs a day i was warned, in no uncertain terms, by an overweight relative that my 'cholesterol would be off the charts'. Another even told me that i would get salmonella (from pasturized supermarket eggs no less).

Its just fuel, food, macros. Nothing else matters

Delvis · 13 Dec 2011 at 14:15

Well, to be fair you could get salmonella

...

There used to be theorys that too many eggs can be bad for you,but I believe thats tripe?

Steedie · 13 Dec 2011 at 14:36

Pretty much mate

Delvis · 13 Dec 2011 at 14:37

Steedie said:
Pretty much mate

Goooooooooooooood, I love my eggs.

The people on the receiving end don't though

tlrBeta · 13 Dec 2011 at 14:43

Well I meant it purely as a hunger wise, not from a calories or health point of view.

My 2/3 in the morning are fine for me

icecold · 13 Dec 2011 at 16:16

Steedie said:
TANK, sorry if you've already said mate, had a quick scan but couldn't see...

What are your goals now? Because if it's to continue those massive lifts of yours, then that really isn't enough Even as a cutting diet, that would be too low. I'm happy to help you out adjusting it though

I believe he's said he wants "strength and endurance", and is not looking to bulk. But I agree with you, there's not enough there.

Tank, in terms of what to have on training days compared to non-training days, you want to keep most things the same. Definitely don't reduce your protein intake.

Delvis · 13 Dec 2011 at 16:22

I never understand the training / non-training days

Is there any benefit? Other than the fact you may be burning less calories one day so require more macros? =/

^TANK^ · 13 Dec 2011 at 16:31

^TANK^ said:
Breakfast
-Three Seven Seas Joint Care Capsules
-Glass of fruit juice with MP Creatine Gluconate, MP Glutamine.
-Six eggs and one tin of tuna in oil with tomatoes

Lunch
-50g of whole grain pasta with a green salad, one chicken breast, one tin of tuna in oil and low fat cottage cheese.
-One low fat yoghurt and an apple.

Dinner
-MP Impact Whey Deluxe Chocolate Smooth Shake
-Mixed vegetable stir fry with one chicken breast and one tin of tuna in oil, with 50g of whole grain rice.

Steedie said:
TANK, sorry if you've already said mate, had a quick scan but couldn't see...

What are your goals now? Because if it's to continue those massive lifts of yours, then that really isn't enough Even as a cutting diet, that would be too low. I'm happy to help you out adjusting it though

Strength and endurance are my main goals with lean mass if possible. This any better steedie? would gladly appreciate your advise as I'm useless at this diet stuff.

Steedie · 13 Dec 2011 at 16:36

Ok mate I'll throw something together. Just of interest, can you only eat 3 times a day or is there room for a couple more meals?

^TANK^ · 13 Dec 2011 at 17:03

Steedie said:
Ok mate I'll throw something together. Just of interest, can you only eat 3 times a day or is there room for a couple more meals?

I would rather stick to three meals a day please. I don't mind consuming a lot if need be or having meal replacement shakes or bars. Thank you for your help again Steedie, I've only been a big lifter never been into the complexities of diets lol.

Steedie · 13 Dec 2011 at 17:29

Ok I'll give it a go

Morning:
4 Whole eggs cooked how you like
150g mackerel fillets
75g oats, 1 scoop of your chocolate whey, 1 chopped banana, hand full of almonds

Lunch:
100g Wholegrain pasta, 8oz Chicken breast, Mixed pepper salad with 250g broccoli. 2 tbsp of Good Oil*, 300g cottage cheese

Dinner:
Few choices here,
- 10oz steak with 200g spinach, 300g sweet potato mash, with a leafy salad covered inGood Oil to start
- 2 salmon fillets, with 100g Wholegrain rice seasoned how you like, 200g broccoli
- 200g chicken breast, 100g Wholegrain pasta with 200g asparagus, any sauce you want with the pasta, plenty of Good Oil on the pasta

Before Bed:
One of your shakes with 300ml milk

Good Oil, get from Tesco fr 5.99 a bottle, will last you ages but is super rich in omega 3 and be cheaper for you than your capsules. Also the mackerel in the morning will work out cheaper than your tuna

healthier too

^TANK^ · 13 Dec 2011 at 17:47

Dosen't look to bad other than I have an allergy towards nuts and cant stand salmon! Never had mackerel before.

Steedie · 13 Dec 2011 at 17:49

Removing the nuts isn't too bad, you're still getting plenty of fat from the rest of the breakfast

As for salmom, that's fine, go for another oily fish you might like. And mackerel is lovely, cheap too. Freefaller loves mackerel also so sure he'll back me up

^TANK^ · 13 Dec 2011 at 17:52

Steedie said:
Removing the nuts isn't too bad, you're still getting plenty of fat from the rest of the breakfast

As for salmom, that's fine, go for another oily fish you might like. And mackerel is lovely, cheap too. Freefaller loves mackerel also so sure he'll back me up

I'll add more mackerel where needed then thank you Steedie your input is greatly appreciated.

Steedie · 13 Dec 2011 at 17:54

No worries

anything else, just ask

^TANK^ · 13 Dec 2011 at 17:56

Have a look at my routine over in the other thread if you like, I'm pretty keen on doing a 5x5 stronglifts to go with the three day split.

^TANK^ · 13 Dec 2011 at 21:10

I think I'll stick to Three Seven Seas Joint Care Capsules and a Glass of fruit juice with MP Creatine Gluconate, MP Glutamine if thats alright Steedie?

Mansize_tissue · 13 Dec 2011 at 21:32

Tank, it can't hurt to up for intake of fish oils. Aim for 2g of EPA and 1.8g of DHA each day. That means about 10-11 high strength fish oils tablets. Look on the back of yours to see how much each capsule has.

^TANK^ · 13 Dec 2011 at 21:43

Mansize_tissue said:
Tank, it can't hurt to up for intake of fish oils. Aim for 2g of EPA and 1.8g of DHA each day. That means about 10-11 high strength fish oils tablets. Look on the back of yours to see how much each capsule has.

http://www.seven-seas.com/jointcare/products/be/supple