Supplements the debate/discussion thread

Milk choc is sweet not chalky but I did have 300ml milk which is more than I usually have.

It makes the shake quite thick though, not a bad thing imo.

Makes a lovely change from strawberry ^^
 
Went for MP protein in the end, chocolate mint, hopefully its not to disgusting as i order 5kg lol

Its not too bad i have nearly finished my first 2.5kg . One thing to note though is i have noticed that if you leave it slightly longer without washing the shakers they REEEEEK way more so then Vanilla...left one overnight wondered if someone had used my kitchen as a toilet when i opened it up :o

Dosent taste too bad with dextrose mixed in. Quite refreshing tbh, onto smooth chocolate next hope its good :)
 
OK so I'm gonna stop my forevercut any day now, and rather than faff about trying to find new foods to fit my macros I'd rather just add in a good shake in the afternoon.
I was thinking something around 200kcal a serving with a good blend of protein & carbs. I was just gonna grab some impact why & instant oats but was thinking a good 'all in one' with some glutamine/creatine etc. on top would be nice. I've recently changed to stronglifts and want to avoid plateauing around the 5RMs I started at!

Any recommendations?
 
I'd save your money and spend a few minutes faffing around trying to find the food to eat instead ;)

How dare you underestimate my laziness! Seriously I HATE preparing/cooking food, it's why I got such a fatty in the first place.

Hurricane XS looks good, but it's not particularly great value for money per serving :/. You can get bars for similar money with that nutrition which is a lot more convenient especially at work with all the judging eyes around me.
 
So make food that you can cook a lot of in one go so you don't have to cook all the time. Rice/Sweet potato/wholemeal pasta can keep for a few days, same with chicken/turkey/mince, or pita breads can be made in advance.

Seriously, it's cheaper and healthier. You said yourself it's the reason you got fat in the first place, surely that's reason enough not to make the same mistake??
 
I absolutely understand the benefits of getting more of my nutrition from real food, but for me the benefits do not weigh up to the effort at this point in my gym 'career'.
I can see that bang on clean whole food nutrition gives you that bit extra, you only have to look at yourself/kai/FF as great examples of that. But for me, right now it's the extra bit of Pareto I don't want.

IIFYM has got me this far, and I'm happy to stay with that for at least the near future.

FWIW Steedie, my macros during my forevercut were roughly 70/150/150 (f/c/p) 1800kcal. This netted me 1lb a week average'd out across the last 18months-2 years. What do you think would be some good numbers to aim for to achieve a very (very) slow bulk hopefully something close to a recomp :). I was thinking 100/170/170 ish, so about 2200kcal. Probably with a 2 week period of 2k to see what happens in between.

edit: Just as a note, I have dropped from a whopping 133kg down to (todays weight) of 74.4kg. Starting to see the scale go up instead of down is going to have a huge psychological effect on me so I really want to be in control, the last thing I want is to start gaining weight then puss out.
 
Wow, well played to you sir.

I wouldn't have thought 2200 would be enough to gain though judging by your 1lb a week loss at 1800 (at least a 500 calorie deficit?), more like 23-400? However the god of nutrition will obviously enlighten us :p
 
I've gone from having shakes in the morning to eating more real food. And at the moment it's more enjoyable and i've got the timings just right at the moment.

I'll cook some chicken Sunday/Monday for a couple of days, then ill cook my rice and veg each morning. And i'll either make a pita each morning with a can of tuna or make it at work.

On top of that, I do my porridge each morning with some whey, blueberries and a nana :)

All thanks to Steedie mind...But it wasn't for his input i'd be having sausages every morning with shakes as well, then nothing much else.
 
It's not like I'm a supplement maniac. At the moment I'll have one a day if I need it to bump up my protein, some days I manage to hit 150 ish without it, some days I'll need to double scoop.

I intend to basically replace my straight whey shake, with something a bit bulkier and also add 200kcal or so snackage mid-afternoon.
 
Got my MP choc mint yesterday, had a test of it last night and was pleasantly surprised, ive got a bit of normal choc from oneon left, but this was tasty so ive got one with me at work to have at lunch with my vegetable soup
 
Need to order some more supplements soon, are any of the bundles on MP good VFM?

I normally just get some protein, hurricane XS is the one I normally get.
 
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