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i think some people have missed the point of my post. At the moment i am living in Singapore - getting most of the ingredients you describe is either very difficult or hugely expensive.

Also eating a huge salad everyday seems like the most boring thing i could ever do, and its got nothing to do with effort.

I think too many people make sweeping generalisations on what a protein shake is - it doesnt have to be water and protein powder.

For example, take the salads you describe, with advocado, nuts, etc can easlily be incorporated into a shake - just put it in a blender and hey presto 9obviously there are tried and tested recipies!)

Just because you take extra time to prepare food and extra time to eat it, doesnt make it any less or more beneficial.

If i could eat a banana, eat some nuts, eat some yogurt, drink some milk all seperately and thats considered good and the right way - but taking the same ingredients and blending them together into a protein shake is considered wrong and lazy - I would have to say i definetly dont agree with that.

Not that i am advocating drinking only protein shakes - but i think healthy, well made protein shakes are very useful, especially in my situation as part of my dialy diet.
 
nukemdukem said:
i think some people have missed the point of my post. At the moment i am living in Singapore - getting most of the ingredients you describe is either very difficult or hugely expensive.

Also eating a huge salad everyday seems like the most boring thing i could ever do, and its got nothing to do with effort.

I think too many people make sweeping generalisations on what a protein shake is - it doesnt have to be water and protein powder.

For example, take the salads you describe, with advocado, nuts, etc can easlily be incorporated into a shake - just put it in a blender and hey presto 9obviously there are tried and tested recipies!)

Just because you take extra time to prepare food and extra time to eat it, doesnt make it any less or more beneficial.

If i could eat a banana, eat some nuts, eat some yogurt, drink some milk all seperately and thats considered good and the right way - but taking the same ingredients and blending them together into a protein shake is considered wrong and lazy - I would have to say i definetly dont agree with that.

Not that i am advocating drinking only protein shakes - but i think healthy, well made protein shakes are very useful, especially in my situation as part of my dialy diet.
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A protein shake is a shake with whey and water or milk.
 
nukemdukem said:
i think some people have missed the point of my post. At the moment i am living in Singapore - getting most of the ingredients you describe is either very difficult or hugely expensive.

Also eating a huge salad everyday seems like the most boring thing i could ever do, and its got nothing to do with effort.

I think too many people make sweeping generalisations on what a protein shake is - it doesnt have to be water and protein powder.

For example, take the salads you describe, with advocado, nuts, etc can easlily be incorporated into a shake - just put it in a blender and hey presto 9obviously there are tried and tested recipies!)

Just because you take extra time to prepare food and extra time to eat it, doesnt make it any less or more beneficial.

If i could eat a banana, eat some nuts, eat some yogurt, drink some milk all seperately and thats considered good and the right way - but taking the same ingredients and blending them together into a protein shake is considered wrong and lazy - I would have to say i definetly dont agree with that.

Not that i am advocating drinking only protein shakes - but i think healthy, well made protein shakes are very useful, especially in my situation as part of my dialy diet.
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That would be a meal replacement then :)

Basically, eating whole foods is just generally better I would assume, over living on what would effectively be a liquid diet.

I have no idea how that would effect digestion and recovery etc though?
 
nukemdukem said:
i think some people have missed the point of my post. At the moment i am living in Singapore - getting most of the ingredients you describe is either very difficult or hugely expensive.

Also eating a huge salad everyday seems like the most boring thing i could ever do, and its got nothing to do with effort.

I think too many people make sweeping generalisations on what a protein shake is - it doesnt have to be water and protein powder.

For example, take the salads you describe, with advocado, nuts, etc can easlily be incorporated into a shake - just put it in a blender and hey presto 9obviously there are tried and tested recipies!)

Just because you take extra time to prepare food and extra time to eat it, doesnt make it any less or more beneficial.

If i could eat a banana, eat some nuts, eat some yogurt, drink some milk all seperately and thats considered good and the right way - but taking the same ingredients and blending them together into a protein shake is considered wrong and lazy - I would have to say i definetly dont agree with that.

Not that i am advocating drinking only protein shakes - but i think healthy, well made protein shakes are very useful, especially in my situation as part of my dialy diet.
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We make sweeping generalisations because you said protein shakes, you didn't say you were blending full on meals.
They're very different things! :p
 
Agreed, don't need to call it anything really, you're eating food and it doesn't matter how you're doing it.
 
nukemdukem said:
i think some people have missed the point of my post. At the moment i am living in Singapore - getting most of the ingredients you describe is either very difficult or hugely expensive.

Also eating a huge salad everyday seems like the most boring thing i could ever do, and its got nothing to do with effort.

I think too many people make sweeping generalisations on what a protein shake is - it doesnt have to be water and protein powder.

For example, take the salads you describe, with advocado, nuts, etc can easlily be incorporated into a shake - just put it in a blender and hey presto 9obviously there are tried and tested recipies!)

Just because you take extra time to prepare food and extra time to eat it, doesnt make it any less or more beneficial.

If i could eat a banana, eat some nuts, eat some yogurt, drink some milk all seperately and thats considered good and the right way - but taking the same ingredients and blending them together into a protein shake is considered wrong and lazy - I would have to say i definetly dont agree with that.

Not that i am advocating drinking only protein shakes - but i think healthy, well made protein shakes are very useful, especially in my situation as part of my dialy diet.
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I'm not making sweeping generalisations - apologies if you took offence, I'm just stating that generally whole foods offer a better all round nutritional profile. A lot of people argue that whey protein is just a food, it is, but I see it as a supplement to whole food, not a replacement for food.

Having been to Singapore, whilst it is a little expensive in some places, there are a lot of good street food places and food parlours where you can eat good quality foods loaded with nutrients. You have awesome seafood there. Okay, I accept that if it is prohibitively expensive, then of course shakes are a good viable alternative if you do not have the opportunity to eat whole foods - such as perhaps your case. However, I'm still a strong believer that they should not replace food, but enhance or add to a diet.

Sure, if you want to put all the elements into a shake (fats, proteins, fibres, vitamins, omega 3 and other oils, etc...) fine - it gets just as expensive if not more just for that convenience. There is also that hormonal response to digestion and ingestion of food, which is enhanced when chewing and eating whole foods - sure, it's marginal, but hey, maybe I just enjoy eating more than others. A lot of people see food as just a way of staying alive, I see it as something to look forward to and get excited towards! :)

Good luck with your training and nutritional journey. Lucky chap living in Singapore! Love the place. :cool:

LiE said:
Agreed, don't need to call it anything really, you're eating food and it doesn't matter how you're doing it.
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Well it's not really a whole food though - it's a good way of delivering nutrition, and IS nutritious, and if you spend time, you can make the shakes a whole meal - but again I'd argue it's no replacement for a proper meal. :)
 
wozza2k said:
Not picking you out, but as a fellow Londoner can you give suggestions?

Itsu is the only one I can think of which isn't a sandwich and is actually healthy.
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I make my own food... however when I don't, I pop into the local waitrose and buy some chicken (you know the pre-cooked ones that are in packs - not the freshly roasted ones). Some salad, and just combine them - you can buy small packs of olive oil/mayo etc... Not perfect but better than nothing. Then, you might as well make your own foods :p

Alternatives, are Leon, and Pod, which do good food. And there are lots of little independent eateries that make fresh salads, and meat/fish dishes around my way - you just have to have a wander around.

I'm lucky that in Canary Wharf there's pretty much every restaurant chain there - but a few stalls that sell fresh good foods.

You just have to explore, and ask - as a Londoner you know that if you don't ask you don't get. So I often ask for something bespoke, even if it's not on the menu, if they don't serve what I want, I shop elsewhere, it's simple. However, the 5-10mins to prepare my own lunch saves all that aggravation and lots of money!
 
IN!

TheProteinWorks summer sale!

Got some proper bargains on there, 50% off Citrulline Malate is amazing. I've ordered plenty of that. Got some good deals on creatine and whey too!

TS6642 when signing up if you're a first time buyer, get some free stuff :D
 
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Steedie said:
IN!

TheProteinWorks summer sale!

Got some proper bargains on there, 50% off Citrulline Malate is amazing. I've ordered plenty of that. Got some good deals on creatine and whey too!

TS6642 when signing up if you're a first time buyer, get some free stuff :D
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Taurine on the cheap too!

Deluxe1 said:
Is the butterscotch and lemon shortcake any good from TPW?
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I wasn't that taken by butterscotch or bakewell tbh but neither are bad.
 
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