Supplements the debate/discussion thread

_Andyh_ said:
Whoever recommended the Cherry Bakewell whey from TPW is so so wrong, the stuff is vile
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mrthingyx said:
Exposure to UV light, actually.

So being outdoors is one thing, but if you're covered, it's pointless.

Hence why a lot of the culturally traditional Middle Eastern/African people in this country are vitamin D deficient. And why there was a case in Southampton, last year (IIRC) of a child with rickets: their mum slathered them in Factor 50 every time they went out in the sun... so whilst they didn't burn, they developed severe bone weakness.

There is also an urban myth about everybody north of Nottingham needing Vit D supplementation of some description because of the relative weakness of the sun north of those latitudes...
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intredasting

i dont use sun cream at all in the UK, so i reckon i should be okay for now, it may be worth taking during winter then? when your more covered up?
 
Psycho Sonny said:
intredasting

i dont use sun cream at all in the UK, so i reckon i should be okay for now, it may be worth taking during winter then? when your more covered up?
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I take supplements and I don't notice any difference in how I am/feel. It cost me £13 for a year's supply (as pointed out above) and so it's a supplement I don't mind paying for given the unreliability of sunshine in this country...
 
wouldn't it be better to just take a multi vit then instead to cover all the bases?

i already have opti-men and orange triad, i usually take one every few days rather than the 3 a day they suggest. both have vitamin D in them as well as a host of other stuff.
 
Psycho Sonny said:
wouldn't it be better to just take a multi vit then instead to cover all the bases?

i already have opti-men and orange triad, i usually take one every few days rather than the 3 a day they suggest. both have vitamin D in them as well as a host of other stuff.
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What form of vit D and at what quantity? These are the important things. D2 is basically useless.
 
icecold said:
What form of vit D and at what quantity? These are the important things. D2 is basically useless.
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What's in Controlled Labs Orange Triad?

Amount Per Serving % DV*
Vitamin A(as Alpha And Beta Carotene) 10000IU 200%
Vitamin C(as Ascorbic Acid) 500mg 833%
Vitamin D(as Cholecalciferol) 1000IU 250%
Vitamin E(as D-Alpha, D-Beta, D-Gamma, D-Delta Tocopheryls And Tocotrienols) 200IU 670%
Vitamin K(as Phytonadione) 120mcg 150%
Thiamin(as Thiamin HCL) 30mg 2000%
Riboflavin 30mg 1765%
Niacin(as Inositol Hexanicotinate) 100mg 500%
Vitamin B6(as Pyridoxine) 30mg 1500%
Folic Acid 400mcg 100%
Vitamin B12(as Methylcobalamin) 500mcg 8333%
Biotin 300mcg 100%
Pantothenic Acid(as Calcium Pantothenate) 100mg 1000%
Calcium(as As Citrate/D-Glucarate) 250mg 25%
Phosphorus(as Di-Calcium Phosphate) 60mg 5%
Iodine(as Potassium Iodide) 255mcg 170%
Magnesium(as Magnesium Chelate) 100mg 25%
Zinc(as Zinc Citrate) 30mg 200%
Selenium(as Selenium Chelate) 200mcg 290%
Copper(as Copper Chelate) 500mcg 25%
Manganese(as Manganese Chelate) 3mg 150%
Chromium(as Chromium Chelate) 25mcg 21%
Molybdenum(as Molybdenum Chelate) 50mcg 70%
Potassium(as Potassium Chloride) 50mg 1%
Vanadium(as Vanadium Citrate) 10mcg **
Boron(as Boron Citrate) 500mcg **
Joint Compex™ 2000mg **
Glucosamine Sulfate And Chondroitin Sulfate
Flex Complex™ 1550mg **
MSM (Methyl-Sulfonyl-Methane), Bromelain (2000 GDU) And Hyaluronic Acid
Digestion And Immune Complex™ 1275mg **
Echinacea (As Root), Ginger Extract, Quercetin (98%), R-Alpha Lipoic Acid (100 Mg), Giant Knotweed (Root Extract), Bilberry (As Fruit), Blueberry Extract (As Fruit), Pomegranate (80% Extract), Grape Seed Extract, Raspberry Seed (As Fruit), Lycopene, Lutein
* Percent Daily Values (%DV) are based on a 2,000 calorie diet
** Daily Value not established
Other Ingredients
Stearic Acid, Magnesium Stearate, Croscarmellose Sodium, Microcrystalline Cellulose, Silicon Dioxide, Hydroxypropylmethyl Cellulose, Polyethylene Glycol
Contains:
Shellfish (Shrimp, Crab, And/or Lobster), Soy.
Allergen Warning:
Manufactured On Equipment Which Processes Products Containing Milk, Egg, Wheat, Soybeans, Shellfish, Fish Oil, Tree Nuts, And Peanuts.


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Opti Men

Amount Per Serving %RDA*
Vitamin A 2800ug 350%
Vitamin D 7ug 140%
Vitamin E 48mg 400%
Vitamin K 75ug 100%
Vitamin C 240mg 300%
Thiamin 3.3mg 300%
Riboflavin 3mg 214%
Niacin 40mg 250%
Vitamin B6 6mg 429%
Folic Acid 500ug 250%
Vitamin B12 5ug 200%
Biotin 100ug 200%
Pantothenic Acid 9mg 150%
Calcium 200mg 25%
Magnesium 100mg 27%
Zinc 15mg 150%
Copper 2mg 200%
Manganese 2mg 100%
Selenium 110ug 200%
Chromium 120ug 300%
Molybdenum 75ug 150%
Amino-♂ Blend **
L-Arginine, L-Glutamine, L-Leucine, L-Isoleucine, L-Cysteine, L-Lysine, L-Valine, L-Threonine
Phyto-♂ Blend **
Cantelope Extract, Watermelon Juice Powder, Plum Juice Powder, Rhubarb Chinese Root, Citrus Bioflavonoids (Fruit) Powder, Watercress Herb , Deodorized Garlic, Rutin, Kelp, Green Tea Extract, Ginger Root, Passion Flower Extract, Grape Seed Extract (80% Polyphenols), Olive Leaf , Blueberry Extract, Bilberry Extract (25% Anthocyanin), Cranberry Extract, Wild Yam Root, Carrot Powder, Papaya Extract, Orange Extract, Pineapple Juice Concentrate Powder, Spinach, Black Currant Fruit Extract, Cauliflower, Kale, Brussels Sprout Powder, Broccoli Extract, Apple Extract, Kiwi Extract, Peach Powder
Enzy-♂ - Blend **
Papain Fruit, Bromelain, Alpha Amylase, Lipase
Alpha Lipoic Acid **
PABA (Para-Aminobenzoic Acid) **
Choline **
Inositol **
Lycopene **
Lutein **
* Recommended Daily Allowances
** Recommended Daily Allowances are not established
Other Ingredients:
Stearic Acid, Magnesium Stearate, Silica, Croscarmellose Sodium (Disintegrant), Microcrystalline Cellulose, Maltodextrin. And Pharmaceutical Glaze.
Allergen Information:
Contains Soya & Gluten Ingredients.
 
Never used to bother with multi vits.When I was cutting for few month I started getting cracks and sores on my mouth from lack vitamins (according to google)
Bought elite man from tpw and it cleared up after week or so.Stopped taking them and cracks came back so they clearly work.

Don't know what was in them but they were bloody massive capsules :p
 
Vitamin D3 is next to useless if it's not suspended in oil IIRC so the small amount you get from a general dry multi vit isn't going to do much good.
 
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