Supra or a Rex?

merlin said:
Supra's pah! Ugly, common as muck, boat like and boring. Untill you spend about £5k on them - then they're ugly, common as muck, boat like and boring after a two month honeymoon period with the power.

Thats not what I am wanting to hear!
 
Hi there

What about the 3000GT, I think in stock trim they hit 60mph in sub 5s and have awsome road presence. Plus they are pretty rare these days especially decent UK cars.

Also what about the Nissan Silvia S15 or S2000?

What do you want from a car? Handling? Acceleration? Top speed? Seats what are your priorities?
 
Easy tiger, I am looking to buy at £8k!

Initially I was looking at the 3000GT, but its a little bit too insanse still, its grp20. Plus the insurance is still a little too high on the Mitsu.

It has to be RWD, ideally sub 7 seconds to 60. Two doors, two seats, dont want to be the "lift giver" for my mates. But still wouldn't mind razzing the prospective missus about ;)
 
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Brynn said:
Easy tiger, I am looking to buy at £8k!

Initially I was looking at the 3000GT, but its a little bit too insanse still, its grp20. Plus the insurance is still a little too high on the Mitsu.

It has to be RWD, ideally sub 7 seconds to 60. Two doors, two seats, dont want to be the "lift giver" for my mates. But still wouldn't mind razzing the prospective missus about ;)


3000GT isn't THAT insane. Driven the GTO twin turbo. Yes it's fast but it's heavy and four wheel drive so it's fairly well planted. I was not as scared as I thought I would be about giving it some beans I have to say. Have had much more frightening experiences as a passenger/driver in Mk2 MR2 and 200sx S13.
 
Brynn said:
Easy tiger, I am looking to buy at £8k!

Initially I was looking at the 3000GT, but its a little bit too insanse still, its grp20. Plus the insurance is still a little too high on the Mitsu.

It has to be RWD, ideally sub 7 seconds to 60. Two doors, two seats, dont want to be the "lift giver" for my mates. But still wouldn't mind razzing the prospective missus about ;)

These are all GRP20 cars. Supra's, RX's, S2000 are all GRP20 m8. If you actually search you will find 3000GT's are cheaper to insure than any of them, why I do not know. But I was paying £600 for my 3000GT fully comprehensive.

If you go Supra be careful as they are not forgiving cars especially the AUTO's. As when the 2nd turbo kicks in it can kick the backend out and on the AUTO's its a double whammy as they AUTO box can kick down as the 2nd turbo is kicking in which really does make it a handful. :D
 
2 totally different cars.

the rex is a drivers car, very well balanced, joy to drive

the supra is much more of a barge, no Im not saying they dont shift, man the TT supras shift like anything, but its an entirely different experience

what do you want? thrills on the A & Bs or a bit of comfort and eating up the straight lines at a silly speed?
 
mattpc said:
3000GT isn't THAT insane. Driven the GTO twin turbo. Yes it's fast but it's heavy and four wheel drive so it's fairly well planted. I was not as scared as I thought I would be about giving it some beans I have to say. Have had much more frightening experiences as a passenger/driver in Mk2 MR2 and 200sx S13.

Your right the 3000GT is a very well planted car and you can use all of its power in pretty much any road conditions. However what they are superb at is how quick the damn speedo whips round and the fact they keep on pulling strong even past 150mph. The only other JAP car I know that accelerates so hard at high speeds is also the Supra. :)
 
Is saw you car on pistonheads gibbo ;), you inticing me into buying it from you :p

The thing with fast straights, there is a speed limit and I dont want to lose my license. But I want some nice torque, and a nice note too ;) but I dont want to sound like its just the backend box making it growl.

Stop saying the supra is a barge! la-la-la-la not listening!
 
Brynn said:
Is saw you car on pistonheads gibbo ;), you inticing me into buying it from you :p

The thing with fast straights, there is a speed limit and I dont want to lose my license. But I want some nice torque, and a nice note too ;) but I dont want to sound like its just the backend box making it growl.

Stop saying the supra is a barge! la-la-la-la not listening!

HI m8

If you wanna buy it you can. :p

I aint trying to sell it to ya, but your saying you want nice torque well the 3000GT has bundles of it. Plus with it been a sequential turbo there is no lagg at all and it nails you back in your seat at any point between 1000rpm-6000rpm. The note from the engine is gorgeous, a nice growl beefy sound down low with a gorgeous raspy note from the engine/exhaust higher up the revs. If you ever saw my acceleration video clips you would see how fast it really is. :)
 
Brynn said:
...But I want some nice torque, and a nice note too ;) but I dont want to sound like its just the backend box making it growl...

Sounds like you want to buy an Alfa GTV 3.0l V6 then, torque and a fantastic sounding engine*. Also I'm not sure that I've ever heard 'class' and supra' in the same sentence before. ;)

*possibly biased by recent purchase

For a Jap car though, I'd say the RX7 over the Supra. I always wanted a 3000GT when I was younger though...
 
Gibbo said:
Your right the 3000GT is a very well planted car and you can use all of its power in pretty much any road conditions. However what they are superb at is how quick the damn speedo whips round and the fact they keep on pulling strong even past 150mph. The only other JAP car I know that accelerates so hard at high speeds is also the Supra. :)

Not being funny but i've seen a bunch of videos of GTO's getting spanked by 300zx's (one of which was actually down on boost), and the supra is quicker than a 300 stock for stock.

I'm so confident I could beat a GTO with the 300 i'd have no issue racing for cash tbh. Any GTO driver, feel free to hold me to that for when I get the Z on the road.

/cockiness
 
I dont see how an RX7 can really be compared with a GTO/300/supra. They have completely and utterly different characteristics and are not for the same customer.

Drive them, personally i didnt like the rotary engine, and the others in the mix all feel absolutely huge and destroy confidence. Obviously both of these points will change with experience behind the wheel of them, but you cannot go with a car purely on what it looks like on a spec sheet.
 
Alfa? Nah, never been an alfa male ;)

Gibbo, think your 3000GT is too out of my price range, unfortunatly.

Great, because of you numpties its back to either a 3000GT, Supra or RX-7. Bah - I came here wanting the best of a supra or rex, and you blimmin add another one to the mix!
 
mattpc is referring to my GTO and he and gibbo are correct. It is the easiest out of any of the cars listed to drive and is VERY forgiving. You can boost mid-corner, no drama, just a world of grip. My 200SX and MR2 would have both bitten my head off for doing that and as gibbo says, the power is just endless. I am pulling c.320bhp in a jap import and my insurance is £900fc through skyinsure - would have been £700 on a uk car.

Out of the Supra and the Rex, would have to be the Rex for me.

Mr Clarkey, you may have an offer ;)
 
Clarkey said:
Not being funny but i've seen a bunch of videos of GTO's getting spanked by 300zx's (one of which was actually down on boost), and the supra is quicker than a 300 stock for stock.

I'm so confident I could beat a GTO with the 300 i'd have no issue racing for cash tbh. Any GTO driver, feel free to hold me to that for when I get the Z on the road.

/cockiness

I'd happily race you m8. Because in all honesty most GTO's on the road are imported sheds. Most have 280BHP and are smaller turbos. A true decent UK 3000GT even in stock trim will give most cars a good run for their money, only downfall to them is the 1700kg weight.

But like any turbo car they respond well to basic breathing mods and my 3000GT shined with the mods I did. I can remember 100% but its in-gear acceleration was like 3s 30mph-70mph in 2nd gear and approx 7.5s 50mph-110mph in 3rd and that was in the wet too.

So I'd happily race you from standstill or already rolling. I am no race drive but I even managed an easy 5.1s 0-60 on my G-Meter with launching the car just at 4000rpm when it was stock. I am quite confident that now if I launched at higher RPM I could get that down to approx 4.6s as the 4x4 does help launching a lot as it just flies of the mark as long as the engine don't bog down. :)

Supra - Great straight line power, reasonable handling but could easily catch you out, UK car again better spec and cheaper to insure.
Rex - A truly focused sports car, not huge amounts of torque as needs to be revved, but razer sharp handling but very expensive to run.
3000GT - Bundles of torque and all its power can be used all the time, forgiving due to endless grip, but not best handling when you run out of grip. Get a good one and pretty cheap to run and reliable. Get a bad one and it will cost you a fortune. Plus they have more toys than you can shake a stick out and very comfortable with silly top speeds due to advanced aero-dynamics.
 
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