Caporegime
Not really. It's the difference between common sense and adrenaline making you ignore it.
Surreal thing happened to me today...
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Not really. It's the difference between common sense and adrenaline making you ignore it.
Soldato
I'd be more worried that in our stupid justice system, if you caused any harm to the person the policeman was trying to stop (even accidentally), you'd probably get more punishment than he would!
Soldato
OP can you describe the scooter guy?
Caporegime
Ahh British people in a nutshell. Whinge about people behaving like ***** and generally having no regard for anyone else. Complain that the police don't do anything but then when one tries to do his job and stop someone who is doing something they shouldn't and the policeman is being a jobsworth and is on his own.
You know those stories about people getting stabbed because they asked someone being a ***** to stop being a *****? Maybe if those sort of people weren't just left to behave like ***** whenever they want, this sort of thing wouldn't happen so much. I'm betting that the buy he was trying to arrest was being a ****. If I was riding my bike on the pavement and a policeman stopped me I wouldn't give them **** and try and walk off and if I did I would expect to be arrested.
You know those stories about people getting stabbed because they asked someone being a ***** to stop being a *****? Maybe if those sort of people weren't just left to behave like ***** whenever they want, this sort of thing wouldn't happen so much. I'm betting that the buy he was trying to arrest was being a ****. If I was riding my bike on the pavement and a policeman stopped me I wouldn't give them **** and try and walk off and if I did I would expect to be arrested.
That's the trouble with sweeping generalisations. There are so many different viewpoints and attitudes within the group that you're generalising, that you can't find a consistent and non-contradictory position to apply to all of them.
Maybe if you hadn't started with "All British people are..." you might have been able to avoid this.
I would like to think I'd intervene, but the reality is, when it came to it, my courage would probably fail me. That said, I wouldn't be completely idle and ignore the situation - I'd probably at least have dialled 999 in case the officer hadn't had the chance to call for help.
Well done, HB
Well done, HB
Man of Honour
Man's doing his job and ended up in a bit of a pinch, a member of the public who weighed up the situation and assisted successfully. Job jobbed.
It’s a bit of a shame that in today’s world this type of action is either frowned upon, or the action itself never takes place because of the bystander effect or in general people are happier to film it for Facebook likes instead. Sure someone could be potentially sued by the suspect later if they received any injuries from the scuffle, but then any decent court jury should laugh the case out.
It’s a bit of a shame that in today’s world this type of action is either frowned upon, or the action itself never takes place because of the bystander effect or in general people are happier to film it for Facebook likes instead. Sure someone could be potentially sued by the suspect later if they received any injuries from the scuffle, but then any decent court jury should laugh the case out.
Or you could end up seriously injured yourself. And be on your own with no help from anyone. Potentially losing your job, or ending up disabled.
Like it or not, police signed up for this. The rest of us lack the training, the equipment, and the support network.
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Neither do I, and at the time you wouldn't have known what the offence was for; You'd have seen the policeman try to restrain a gentleman, without any background. Then you'd have seen him struggle to restrain.
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good work..... I would like to think i would do the same but until am in that position I do not know for sure.
Some good points on both sides however. I am a great believer that you dont start a fight.... BUT equally if you end up in one and you get an advantage you do not pussy foot around.. shock and awe and all that . I have seen too many films where the "victim" gets a lucky punch or what ever and manages to down their superior assailant only for them to let him get up again and ultimately lose... badly.
therefore IF I did get involved it would likely be a haymaker in the side of the head followed by what ever punches came to mind............. which would as others have said likely have gotten me in more trouble than the guy fighting the copper, ergo... I hope i never get in that position.
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I'm not sure how you got "the police officer started the fight" from the story.
What should the police do when someone is reluctant to cooperate, or resists arrest? Just doff their cap and say "Terribly sorry, don't mind me, on you go"?
I struggled to sleep last night, playing things over and over again in my mind, occasionally looking at the comments being posted on this thread.
Whilst I can understand some points, I can't help but feel that those implying they wouldn't have helped are part of the reasons why society is like it is.
I get the risk factor, I get the "He could have had a knife" - all valid points but my theory (Probably more subconscious in retrospect) is that if this had been the case, he probably would have used it before I stepped in. We'll never know.
Those saying they wouldn't have helped, well you leave me cold. Making direct eye contact with the cop as he was on the floor, screaming about his hand and then to have ignored that and walked away is no mean feat. Kind of questions your morals really, at least in my opinion.
Whilst I can understand some points, I can't help but feel that those implying they wouldn't have helped are part of the reasons why society is like it is.
I get the risk factor, I get the "He could have had a knife" - all valid points but my theory (Probably more subconscious in retrospect) is that if this had been the case, he probably would have used it before I stepped in. We'll never know.
Those saying they wouldn't have helped, well you leave me cold. Making direct eye contact with the cop as he was on the floor, screaming about his hand and then to have ignored that and walked away is no mean feat. Kind of questions your morals really, at least in my opinion.
Good for you for stepping in.
Can't say I'd be as brave honestly - Police are there for a reason, I'd have left them to get on with it. As others have already said, the guy could have had a knife.
I feel like I've read a case before where someone intervened with a scuffle, someone ended up dying or badly injured and the person who intervened was in big trouble. If I was genuinely worried that the officer couldn't handle himself, I would call 999.
Can't say I'd be as brave honestly - Police are there for a reason, I'd have left them to get on with it. As others have already said, the guy could have had a knife.
I feel like I've read a case before where someone intervened with a scuffle, someone ended up dying or badly injured and the person who intervened was in big trouble. If I was genuinely worried that the officer couldn't handle himself, I would call 999.
Been in a situation or two like this myself, though yours sounds considerably more exciting. Helped a lady being robbed at a cash point. Got the **** kicked out of me but managed to hold the guy till the police arrived.
I think most people would like to THINK they had it in them to step in and help, but it's one of those things I suppose. You don't really know who you are or what you'd do in a situation like that until you're there. Standing there just filming it is mental though. Either move on or do something to help.
Good on you for stepping in dude!
I think most people would like to THINK they had it in them to step in and help, but it's one of those things I suppose. You don't really know who you are or what you'd do in a situation like that until you're there. Standing there just filming it is mental though. Either move on or do something to help.
Good on you for stepping in dude!
Coach stop? Is this a London thing?
OP must be American, or something equally as weird.
I'd like to think I'd jump in, even if to settle it down etc. But you really can't know until that situation is presented.
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