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I'm not kidding and I'm talking about stability in the wider middle east which is precarious to say the least.
Poll: Syrian Chemical Weapon Attack
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I'm not kidding and I'm talking about stability in the wider middle east which is precarious to say the least.
lol
Aww man, you made me spit my morning coffee all over my desk
Wonder if you can remember a place called Iraq?
Worth pointing out on that note that contrary to the PR the USA were actually the aggressors in the Cuban missile crisis (The Cuban site was built in response to the US building a site in Turkey, which was dismantled as part of the agreement made about the Cuban site).
It is a powder keg and we are getting ever so closer to the fuse being lit.
I would recommend disregarding nearly everything on YouTube as evidence, it is not a credible source of information. The first YouTube video is from March 2012, too.
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Talk about closing your eyes and stuffing tissues in your ears. Pretty disturbing you can dismis documented evidence staring right at you, based on the fact it's on a medium you're not to particularly fond of.
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Russia is sending in its own subs / cruiser, I think. Just over heard on sky news. Could get interesting.
I don't believe what RandomDude1998 posts on a 3 minute YouTube video, and will not take that as evidence of anything. If you can give me multiple sources of information, from credible places, I will start to listen. Blindly believing a YouTube video is why people think we didn't go to the moon.
His post is telling us to search YouTube for 'fake news', and you think that is an acceptable source of information. That's just silly.
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big back down from cameron
as much as i think assad needs some whoopin cameron was racing ahead this week and is paying the price now
unless the reports they are supposed to release today show us why they are so convinced
as much as i think assad needs some whoopin cameron was racing ahead this week and is paying the price now
unless the reports they are supposed to release today show us why they are so convinced
Nick Clegg got did the drudging this morning on radio 4 but it appears that Milliband+L wont support the government until the UN evidence is out, to make sure we appear to not commit any knee jerk reactions.
I feel its all a bit of a show for democracies sake. The evidence wont (very unlikely) indicate who used it just the fact it was used. (I believe it could be either side - more likely the rebels doing it on them self)
Its a shame. I couldn't care less about the Syrian people to be brutally honest. This will escalate into a load of threats and stand-offs then cartwheel out of control, when no one has the guts to back down and be a better human being, all for the sake of not losing face.
I like Obahma he has the final say, i hope he doesn't listen to his warmongers advice too closely.
I hope Milliband can cause such a fuss that nothing gets voted for today in parliment.
i hope Cameron just shuts up and does what is right at the end of the day with proper UN approval and Russian support too.
I feel its all a bit of a show for democracies sake. The evidence wont (very unlikely) indicate who used it just the fact it was used. (I believe it could be either side - more likely the rebels doing it on them self)
Its a shame. I couldn't care less about the Syrian people to be brutally honest. This will escalate into a load of threats and stand-offs then cartwheel out of control, when no one has the guts to back down and be a better human being, all for the sake of not losing face.
I like Obahma he has the final say, i hope he doesn't listen to his warmongers advice too closely.
I hope Milliband can cause such a fuss that nothing gets voted for today in parliment.
i hope Cameron just shuts up and does what is right at the end of the day with proper UN approval and Russian support too.
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It may well be a UK or US politician who lights it via a smart bomb. I don't like it one bit.
Problem is, where's the incentive for a British PM to not act as the warmonger? Honestly I think Tony Blair should be facing criminal charges for going into Iraq, at the very least he should be an international pariah. Instead he's living it up on a six-figure salary at various 5* hotels across the region as Middle-East Peace Envoy! You could potentially see why Cameron wants a piece of that when he leaves British politics.
That said, I do think that the Syrian regime are behind the latest chemical weapon attack. There's no other plausible explanation. Bet Obama is regretting making that a "red line" now. Oh well, let's get on with the token air strikes and then back to doing nothing.
That said, I do think that the Syrian regime are behind the latest chemical weapon attack. There's no other plausible explanation. Bet Obama is regretting making that a "red line" now. Oh well, let's get on with the token air strikes and then back to doing nothing.
hague in particular is getting right up my nose
can politicians not see that the are is just too split on religious and tribal lines..let the bloody arab league sort it out, we should keep well away..there enough big military powers already over there to do something about it if they want to
if we get involved all they will see is the west killing more muslims..the reasons behind it instantly vanish
can politicians not see that the are is just too split on religious and tribal lines..let the bloody arab league sort it out, we should keep well away..there enough big military powers already over there to do something about it if they want to
if we get involved all they will see is the west killing more muslims..the reasons behind it instantly vanish
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This is a bit of an unusual view of the matter.
Turkey was a member of NATO, so giving them a couple of obsolete nuclear weapons did not come as a surprise to anyone. The USSR moved nuclear weapons throughout the Warsaw Pact without triggering a crisis either. The difference was that Cuba was within the US sphere of influence and in effect a third party. It was a very clear escalation.
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Blindly dismissing something based on the fact it's a YouTube video is just as bad.
It maybe of benefit to make a case by case judgement based on the information within the video rather than making blanket statements.
For example not really sure what else you need apart from a set of eyes for this one
Not really, that's how it was taught to us in school, basically the USA built a missile base so close to the USSR that they could launch and hit Moscow before the USSR even had time to get a missile airborne, so in response the USSR built one so close to the USA that they could take out Washington before the USA could get a missile airborne. Then an agreement was made to dismantle both bases, it was hailed in media as a US victory against the bad guys but in reality the US was outmaneuvered politically.
Going OT now though
I'm not sure what posting a video of a man crying, whilst holding his dead children is meant to do, but doing it on a case by case basis is the ideal situation, which I tend to do. However, after the amount of people using YouTube as evidence that Obama is a reptile, which is exactly what I'll find when I look for 'fake news', I'll give it a miss. There's too much crap to filter out.