Poll: Syrian Chemical Weapon Attack

[Danthus]

Indeed. We'll be firing cruise missiles from well outside Syrian airspace.

Do you not think their is contingency in place if Assad launches planes?

 

[Burnsy2023]

Do you not think their is contingency in place if Assad launches planes?

We'll see them coming a long way off and SU-24s or Mig 23s are going to have issues attacking eurofighters.

 

[gettothechopper]

the eurofighters will just be there to ensure nothing interferes with the afgan airbridge

 

[deanolfc]

Russia should give syria The Sukhoi T-50 5G fighter jet, this terrorist invasion would be over in no time.

 

[Burnsy2023]

the eurofighters will just be there to ensure nothing interferes with the afgan airbridge

I don't think there's any indication it was ever under threat.

 

[Burnsy2023]

Russia should give syria The Sukhoi T-50 5G fighter jet, this terrorist invasion would be over in no time.

You can't just give a jet to someone and expect they'll know how to use or maintain it. That takes months if not years.

 

[gettothechopper]

Russia should give syria The Sukhoi T-50 5G fighter jet, this terrorist invasion would be over in no time.

an untested prototype with no weapons ? yeah im sure it would really make a big difference

 

[gettothechopper]

I don't think there's any indication it was ever under threat.

thats not the same as not being prepared in case it is, Cyprus is pretty darn near syria and they have a proven histroy of "accidently" shooting down jets near their airspace

 

[scorza]

one of the turkish papers ******** links to is zaman
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zaman_(newspaper)
which seems to be the biggest news paper in turkey

but nevermind all the turkish news papers obviously got it wrong and somehow the story got lost in translation from turkish to turkish and reuters must be right

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/05/30/us-syria-crisis-turkey-idUSBRE94T0YO20130530

(Adana governor) Cos said unknown chemical materials were found during the raids and sent away for investigation. He denied media reports that a small amount of the nerve agent sarin had been uncovered.

I guess like our media, the Turkish papers can be premature and sensationalist.

 

[Danthus]

We'll see them coming a long way off and SU-24s or Mig 23s are going to have issues attacking eurofighters.

I meant Syria launching air strikes in Syria.

 

[[TW]Fox]

but nevermind all the turkish news papers obviously got it wrong and somehow the story got lost in translation from turkish to turkish and reuters must be right

Make your mind up, I thought you kept telling us the media lies/makes things up/whatever?

Could it actually be that nobody really knows what's going on and that perhaps it isn't possible to work out exactly whats going on simply using a computer in the UK with access to the internet?

 

[Craterloads]

There won't BE a war against Assad, there will be limited strikes designed to reduce the regimes capacity for another chemical strike. Most likely the primary target will be the 4th armoured as they are the ones commanded by Assads brother and the ones who are believed to be responsible for the chemical attack.

This is purely going to be a punitive action, not war in the specific sense.

Are these the same type of "limited" strikes that we witnessed in Libya?

"Designed to to reduce the regimes capacity" have you forgotten how deceptively the "limited" mandate was manipulated for 100% regime change including strikes on a fleeing gaddafi that resulted in his brutal execution?

Unfortunately the UK/US have tied their own hands on the international stage because of lies and manipulation only a short time ago, at the detriment of the Syrian people.

 

[Burnsy2023]

I've added a poll. I've also got an implicit assumption that the UN weapons inspectors confirm chemical weapons were used but I couldn't fit that in.

 

[Von Smallhausen]

Wiki suggests the Syrian air forces top fighter is the MiG 29 which although still a very capable fighter, it shouldn't give a Typhoon flown by a highly trained RAF pilot too much trouble.

They still use MiG 25s as interceptors which are very fast but I'd guess them to be a poor fighter and years out of date.

 

[Lysander]

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/05/30/us-syria-crisis-turkey-idUSBRE94T0YO20130530



I guess like our media, the Turkish papers can be premature and sensationalist.

The Turkish media are also very good at outright lying, censoring the real news and being under control of Erdogan who is all too ready to side with the West. He's also desperate to get into the EU, not that the recent events in the country will help his cause.

 

[Schlong&Stable]

Well as you said, they are not going to get an opportunity to engage in air-to-air combat anyway. We'll use cruise missiles launched from submarines, destroyers and possibly aircraft outside of Syrian airspace. It seems extremely unlikely they'll attack us, because that will only further escalate matters.

 

[Devlish]

There will never be a UN SC resolution whilst Russia is at the table. Russia could tell Assad to skidaddle and he would, but it seems theyve gone all cold war on this one.

 

[Danthus]

Well as you said, they are not going to get an opportunity to engage in air-to-air combat anyway. We'll use cruise missiles launched from submarines, destroyers and possibly aircraft outside of Syrian airspace. It seems extremely unlikely they'll attack us, because that will only further escalate matters.

Right, so Syria isn't daft enough to risk escalating matters but it would launch a chemical attack that risked escalating matters?

 

[Burnsy2023]

Well as you said, they are not going to get an opportunity to engage in air-to-air combat anyway. We'll use cruise missiles launched from submarines, destroyers and possibly aircraft outside of Syrian airspace. It seems extremely unlikely they'll attack us, because that will only further escalate matters.

That and they simply don't have the military capability.

 

[Danthus]

The BBC are reporting Israel has mobilised troops and placed them close to the Syrian border.