System builders are not happy with Ivy Bridge

Ollie1132 · 2 May 2012 at 15:34

prescott28 said:
My Ivy just arrived along with the other upgrade bits - moving up from Q6600. I hope I made e a good choice but, frankly, a 4.5GHz over-clock will be fine.

Id say 4.5Ghz on anything is more than enough power

plus with Ivy your temps should be quite reasonable at that vcore + clock speed. When will you be putting it together? xD

sunama · 2 May 2012 at 15:45

Ollie, you have also got an IB. Have you tried overclocking it? If so, what were the results?

Ollie1132 · 2 May 2012 at 15:47

Haven't got it running yet mate I should have the SSD I need to get going by tommorow... it pains me that it's all built and waiting.. but I can't run it with out an SSD and my old HDD is IDE D: no sata drives hanging about either :/ Ill get overclocking as soon as though I plan to probably have an every day OC of about 4.5Ghz Ill push to 4.8Ghz if I can just to see the tempratures/how well the chip runs.

prescott28 · 2 May 2012 at 15:52

sunama said:
I only hope you that you don't end up with another "Pres - hott".
Let us know how the overclock goes - even now, there is very little information on retail overclocked IB CPUs.

Fingers crossed it will work well! I've got the H80 fluid cooler for it.

the first job is to see how well it goes at stock when it ought to be cool anyway - it should be quite a boost from the Q6600. After that, 4.5 GHz will be fine for an 0ver-clock.

Building Thursday night / Friday so will report back later

sunama · 2 May 2012 at 15:53

4.8Ghz will be pushing it.
4.5Ghz is realistic.
Personally, for a 24/7 overclock, I think 4.3Ghz is the most realistic.

I know that we read about the overclocks which people who benchmark, achieve. But I wonder whether those clocks can be maintained year after year.

Ollie1132 · 2 May 2012 at 15:54

Cool I plan to have mine up and running tommorow evening if my SSD arrives. Ive got the Alpenfohn K2. You've got the 3570k right not the 3770k?

4.8Ghz is achieveable but the chip would degrade so fast. Id say 4.5/4.6Ghz is the most realistic day to day overclocking on high end air coolers/closed water loops.

sunama · 2 May 2012 at 15:55

prescott28 said:
the first job is to see how well it goes at stock when it ought to be cool anyway - it should be quite a boost from the Q6600. After that, 4.5 GHz will be fine for an 0ver-clock.

I'm coming from a Core2Duo E6600, which I bought in 2007 (I think). So I am expecting some major improvements...especially with the new SSD. I shall finally be able to see just how far a SB is able to clock, 24/7 stable, on water.

Ollie1132 · 2 May 2012 at 16:00

Im upgrading from an e6500 I had a very little budget last year and just went full out cheap... and as expected it hasn't lasted that well. Still runs yes but it's not the kind of performance I truly wanted in a gaming rig

muon · 2 May 2012 at 16:07

sunama said:
Have you overclocked the 2600K yet?

Yes, hitting 4.5ghz-4.8ghz depending on what voltage I'm willing to run i.e. how loud a system I want.

JonJ678 · 2 May 2012 at 17:03

What vcore is needed for 4.8ghz? And is this with load line calibration enabled or disabled?

For comparison, my aging 920 will hold 4.4ghz ibt stable at 1.45v with llc off, or 1.35v with llc on (roughly). I think it posted at 4.6 ish, but i wasn't brave enough to stress it at that speed.

Ollie1132 · 2 May 2012 at 17:05

for 4.8Ghz depending on your luck with your chip you could need another from 1.36-1.42 vcore. at least from the reviews I have seen. Going past 1.38V is when things start to heat up a lot more quickly.

sunama · 2 May 2012 at 17:06

Ollie1132 said:
Im upgrading from an e6500 I had a very little budget last year and just went full out cheap... and as expected it hasn't lasted that well. Still runs yes but it's not the kind of performance I truly wanted in a gaming rig

One thing I've learnt is that it works out cheaper to do one BIG upgrade every 3 years or so (ie. change motherboard, ram, cpu and maybe video card). Then you can do minor upgrades as and when.

The alternative is to do half-hearted upgrades every 2 years, which I think works out more expensive and is also time consuming (I use watercooling, so changing CPU is a major pain).

This is the reason why I went with the 2600k, as opposed to the 2500k or the 3570k (which was a cheaper option). I didnt want to take the 3770k route due to cost (an extra £60 by my calculations, last night).

Ollie1132 · 2 May 2012 at 17:08

sunama said:
One thing I've learnt is that it works out cheaper to do one BIG upgrade every 3 years or so (ie. change motherboard, ram, cpu and maybe video card). Then you can do minor upgrades as and when.

The alternative is to do half-hearted upgrades every 2 years, which I think works out more expensive and is also time consuming (I use watercooling, so changing CPU is a major pain).

This is the reason why I went with the 2600k, as opposed to the 2500k or the 3570k (which was a cheaper option). I didnt want to take the 3770k route due to cost (an extra £60 by my calculations, last night).

Yeah the system I have built for my IB should only need another SSD/HDD for storage as well as a GPU upgrade every couple of years. I think it should last me up to 5 years if Im lucky.

sehcure · 2 May 2012 at 17:08

Essentially people are complaining about something not being improved that isn't even a major selling point for most consumers, aswell as something that isn't entirely approved of - you're running higher than the speeds they specify, so they don't really care.

They only came out with that overclock insurance like a few months ago.

Ollie1132 · 2 May 2012 at 17:09

sehcure said:
Essentially people are complaining about something not being improved that isn't even a major selling point for most consumers, aswell as something that isn't entirely approved of - you're running higher than the speeds they specify, so they don't really care.

They only came out with that overclock insurance like a few months ago.

True. But now Intel are a lot more like "Well you can overclock if you want to BUT if you go over X.XX voltage you do so at your own risk" kind of idea. It's always best to stay with in the intended voltage of a chip.

sehcure · 2 May 2012 at 17:16

Ollie1132 said:
True. But now Intel are a lot more like "Well you can overclock if you want to BUT if you go over X.XX voltage you do so at your own risk" kind of idea. It's always best to stay with in the intended voltage of a chip.

When you consider that people have been overclocking for years and years; yet only lately was that insurance created. Obviously the market for a more mainstream recognition of overclocking potential has been realised, but that was when IB would have been quite far down the line development wise..

I'd assume the next Tick is going to be more overclock-oriented.

Ollie1132 · 2 May 2012 at 17:18

We can but hope if it's less OC orientated it would suck. We may see Intel having to limit how far we can actually push a chip so they don't instantly die on us.

thenewoc · 2 May 2012 at 17:57

Still waiting for some of my parts too, the CPU cooler has been on order for ages and was let down over the case yesterday. Mobo and Sammy Ram turned up today so the pile of parts is gradually building.

Ollie1132 · 2 May 2012 at 17:58

thenewoc said:
Still waiting for some of my parts too, the CPU cooler has been on order for ages and was let down over the case yesterday. Mobo and Sammy Ram turned up today so the pile of parts is gradually building.

Ive got all my stuff made currently

just need the SSD (should be here tommorow) then Ive got to modify my vengeance ram slightly and Ill be good to go

thenewoc · 2 May 2012 at 18:09

My new SSD and PSU have been sitting here for a few weeks doing absolutely nothing, other than tantalising me. Just waiting on the case, CPU cooler and 3570K now.