Tabletop Warhammer?
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Soldato
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Nice!
First Tactical Squad, work-in-progress. Apologies for the poor quality, but it's the best I could do with a phone camera and my desk lamp. Click the thumbnail to get a better look.
I forgot how much fun this was, I really did, so I'm really glad that this thread came along (even if my wallet is not).
Soldato
Just finished a one off model for a campaign of Dark Heresy. Meet Drako Zarkov, an Imperial World born Assassin carrying his powerful as &*%$ silenced hunting rifle.
Soldato
Is that based on one of the old Tanith sniper models?
Soldato
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Here's a quick question for all you painters out there...
When you use spray undercoat do you spray it so thick that it's block white all over or do you give it a light coat so you can see the texture/slightly greying of the base model (if it's metal)?
I spray lightly as I'm worried about obscuring details and my missus wants to spray it more thickly to give it an even base coat (she says mine is patchy).
We'd love to hear your thoughts and stop a bank holiday barney!
When you use spray undercoat do you spray it so thick that it's block white all over or do you give it a light coat so you can see the texture/slightly greying of the base model (if it's metal)?
I spray lightly as I'm worried about obscuring details and my missus wants to spray it more thickly to give it an even base coat (she says mine is patchy).
We'd love to hear your thoughts and stop a bank holiday barney!
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Don't attempt to spray the model in one go. Make several light passes if you will, leaving a few minutes between each. That way if it starts to get to thick on the models, you can tell, and if there is not enough you can tell. It should be a solid block colour at the end, without clogging up any of the detail.
And I wouldn't bother trying to spray every single bit of the model, there are always places it never reaches. Just finish these areas off with some slightly watered down black/white paint.
Edit: I'm pretty happy with my Vallejo paints, I love the drip top on the bottles, and the paints match up really well to my experience of GW's offerings.
Caporegime
Nice!
First Tactical Squad, work-in-progress. Apologies for the poor quality, but it's the best I could do with a phone camera and my desk lamp. Click the thumbnail to get a better look.
I forgot how much fun this was, I really did, so I'm really glad that this thread came along (even if my wallet is not).
Any reason you've not glued the heads on / glued them all together from the start?
Just finished a one off model for a campaign of Dark Heresy. Meet Drako Zarkov, an Imperial World born Assassin carrying his powerful as &*%$ silenced hunting rifle.
*e-high-five*
I've been looking to paint up a model to represent my Dark Heresy Character, i'd give more details but my GM has her character-sheet.
She's a sniper-too though. last time we played, i saved all the other characters lives by shooting the detonator to a large bomb, which i passed despite the GM setting a -80 penalty
*smug*
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Commissario
You really want to get a good even coverage completely covering the surface, but it can take several coats.
I think after a bit you get the hang of it and can judge it almost without thinking.
With metals especially you need a good undercoat, the paint chips off easily enough even with a good undercoat...
Talking undercoats, I tried Vallejo Grey primer* (not to be confused with their paint that is grey primer coloured) airbrush spray last night, which looks like it could well become our new choice of undercoat for plastic models.
It appears to have given a lovely smooth coat even in difficult to reach places on the models, with very little wasted paint (the advantage of being able to get in close with the spray and control it), I think it used about 5ml to do a tank and 3 marines.
The question is, how well it holds up
I also did the undersides of all the drones with metalic black
*About £10 for 200ml
I think after a bit you get the hang of it and can judge it almost without thinking.
With metals especially you need a good undercoat, the paint chips off easily enough even with a good undercoat...
Talking undercoats, I tried Vallejo Grey primer* (not to be confused with their paint that is grey primer coloured) airbrush spray last night, which looks like it could well become our new choice of undercoat for plastic models.
It appears to have given a lovely smooth coat even in difficult to reach places on the models, with very little wasted paint (the advantage of being able to get in close with the spray and control it), I think it used about 5ml to do a tank and 3 marines.
The question is, how well it holds up
I also did the undersides of all the drones with metalic black
*About £10 for 200ml
Soldato
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That's great stuff thanks very much for letting me know...my missus says she's right but I'll call it a draw.
Interesting to hear you comment on Vallejo paints I've been looking into these lately, I've been coveting the box set with everything in (only £265!
)I'll collate the information I've found and post it later today.
How have you found their washes etc? Are they a complete replacement for the GW paints?
*edit* Thanks for the extra info Werewolf.
Commissario
I've been using Vallejo as well as the GW paints for a while, the Vallejo bottles are IMO much better for storing the paint/tipping it out but the Vallejo paints have an annoying tendancy to go very goopy for some colours, and unlike the GW pots you can't easily get a cocktail stick or similar into them to mix them again.
They aren't a complete replacement for GW paints, but do fill in some gaps and have some colours that GW have either abandoned (Fiery Orange for example), and slightly different shades which can compliment the GW colours well.
I've got the full Vallejo Game Colour set (or it was full when I bought it, they've added to the range since then), but really have only used about a 2 dozen colours or so colours from it, I think unless you're doing a heck of a lot of different models the full sets probably aren't worth it, as you risk the paint drying out by the time you use a lot of the colours.
One thing I have found is that vallejo thinners works great for both GW paints and Vallejo paints, and is about £6-10 for a half litre bottle (I bought one a couple of years ago and it's still about 80% full).
They aren't a complete replacement for GW paints, but do fill in some gaps and have some colours that GW have either abandoned (Fiery Orange for example), and slightly different shades which can compliment the GW colours well.
I've got the full Vallejo Game Colour set (or it was full when I bought it, they've added to the range since then), but really have only used about a 2 dozen colours or so colours from it, I think unless you're doing a heck of a lot of different models the full sets probably aren't worth it, as you risk the paint drying out by the time you use a lot of the colours.
One thing I have found is that vallejo thinners works great for both GW paints and Vallejo paints, and is about £6-10 for a half litre bottle (I bought one a couple of years ago and it's still about 80% full).
Soldato
In that photo I was in the process of attaching the left arms (you can see the ones at the back aren't yet ready and the ones at the front have the Bolters held with blu-tac so I can position the left arms correctly). Once the arms were on and the weapons are resting in place, I put the heads on. The reason for putting the heads on after the arms is so that I can get at least a semi-realistic pose for them.
Caporegime
Did you spray them before putting them together then?
Soldato
Caporegime
Nah, that's just the crappy lighting. They aren't painted in that picture.
That is really bad lighting.
Soldato
I used to play table top Warhammer Roleplay back around 1988, with Games Workshop dungeon floor plans, as well as using Call of Cthulu floor plans.
Lent out my hardbacks of Warhammer Roleplay and Realms of Chaos, bad idea came back in tatters, still got them along with a hogshead edition.
Still got lots of old-skool Chaos Champions, Warriors, Beastmen, lot's of Skaven all late 80's/early 90's editions as well as player characters such as Humans, Wood Elves, Dwarves etc.
Going back around 10 years a lot of the molds for these models are beyond use, as I made a large order and a lot were not available due to this.
Lent out my hardbacks of Warhammer Roleplay and Realms of Chaos, bad idea came back in tatters, still got them along with a hogshead edition.
Still got lots of old-skool Chaos Champions, Warriors, Beastmen, lot's of Skaven all late 80's/early 90's editions as well as player characters such as Humans, Wood Elves, Dwarves etc.
Going back around 10 years a lot of the molds for these models are beyond use, as I made a large order and a lot were not available due to this.
Soldato
I have boxes and boxes of Warhammer stuff. Sadly I was young and foolish and most if it is badly painted or now broken. Seems like a mammoth task to sell it all. If I could sell it all on I would probably start collecting again, start afresh. Though no one I know plays it really. And I have little enough street cred as it is.
Soldato
Yeah. It was late and my desk lamp isn't the best. They're now mostly built, have a very dark grey coat and some lighter grey highlights. Which brings me on to my question...
To those who do highlight their models, how do you do it? So far, I've just painted on the colour near to the edge of armour plates and whatnot. Is this the best way? It doesn't really look too neat. :/