tablets to replace PCs?

[paradisiac]

Ha-ha read what I have said,, I'm talking long term..

You might want too read mad and intel reports that have said desktop cppu sales will decline.

but if the next 4 years are mapped out for desktop/laptop cpus, and they surely wont just stop in 2017, then the OPs fear that they will lose all their customers to tablets is not true like you are trying to portray. it will be a very long time, if ever a desktop will not be around, there is soo much a tablet cant do without a lot of money being spent on it. plus, the more powerful it is, the hotter it will get so there will become a point were something will have to give.

and the tiny keyboards for them ARE NOT an alternative to a full size keyboard, they are too small for long term use.

 

[paradisiac]

At work, we have a handful of desktops per building. Everyone has laptops. Docks are on the table. Place laptop on dock and you have keyboard/mouse/screen connected up by simply placing laptop down on a certain place. What's wrong with this?

because you have a desk with a dock, keyboard, mouse and monitor, that 99% of the time will not be in use as you take the laptop out with you, so is a wasted space.

How's it a lot more practicable?
Its expensive, massive so takes up room, totally non portable so it's hours of use is massively limited and thus small.

 

[Diagro]

but if the next 4 years are mapped out for desktop/laptop cpus, and they surely wont just stop in 2017, then the OPs fear that they will lose all their customers to tablets is not true like you are trying to portray. it will be a very long time, if ever a desktop will not be around, there is soo much a tablet cant do without a lot of money being spent on it. plus, the more powerful it is, the hotter it will get so there will become a point were something will have to give.

and the tiny keyboards for them ARE NOT an alternative to a full size keyboard, they are too small for long term use.

It shouldn't happen anyway, One would hope he would progress onto fixing those as well...

 

[Glaucus]

but if the next 4 years are mapped out for desktop/laptop cpus, and they surely wont just stop in 2017, then the OPs fear that they will lose all their customers to tablets is not true like you are trying to portray. it will be a very long time, if ever a desktop will not be around, there is soo much a tablet cant do without a lot of money being spent on it. plus, the more powerful it is, the hotter it will get so there will become a point were something will have to give.

and the tiny keyboards for them ARE NOT an alternative to a full size keyboard, they are too small for long term use.

Where have I ever said desktop CPUs will ever be ditched?
Again your making stuff up. There will always be desktops, for the forseable future anyway. The talk is trend and % market. Not that desktops will suddenly end. I fully expect sales to slow and then decline and I fully expect desktops to get mullered in the % game.
I however have not ever said desktops will cease to exist. In fact read my first post in this thread.

desktops are on the downward trend and will over the long term massively reduce.
But there will always be need for certain people to have desktops.


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[sven256]

but if the next 4 years are mapped out for desktop/laptop cpus, and they surely wont just stop in 2017, then the OPs fear that they will lose all their customers to tablets is not true like you are trying to portray. it will be a very long time, if ever a desktop will not be around, there is soo much a tablet cant do without a lot of money being spent on it. plus, the more powerful it is, the hotter it will get so there will become a point were something will have to give.

and the tiny keyboards for them ARE NOT an alternative to a full size keyboard, they are too small for long term use.

But you are not taking the originals posters target audience into account I would guess his target audience is old people who do very little on their pc.

This is the market which will be eroded away. While yes there will be pcs still they will be more specialised and in general the people using them will be much more clued up as a percentage, thus reducing the potential clients.

 

[semi-pro waster]

At work, we have a handful of desktops per building. Everyone has laptops. Docks are on the table. Place laptop on dock and you have keyboard/mouse/screen connected up by simply placing laptop down on a certain place. What's wrong with this?

Is what you're really asking - would docking a tablet be an alternative to having a laptop or a desktop? If so the answer is yes for some people but it's not something I've been arguing against, in point of fact all I've said is that I don't like typing on touchscreens for any extended period of time.

A tablet based system offers me no benefit over a laptop except that it can be physically smaller and even then it's not significant enough an advantage to be compelling for me - I don't care about the ability to touch the screen and manipulate entry in that way, I prefer the greater amount of storage space that is typical with laptops/desktops and that they're generally faster although again I suspect the gap will narrow.

 

[paradisiac]

Where have I ever said desktop CPUs will ever be ditched?
Again your making stuff up. There will always be desktops, for the forseable future anyway. The talk is trend and % market. Not that desktops will suddenly end. I fully expect sales to slow and then decline and I fully expect desktops to get mullered in the % game.
I however have not ever said desktops will cease to exist. In fact read my first post in this thread.

That's the point most people won't own a desktop, it'll take time but the majority of people don't need a desktop and eventually as they become to slow and cumbersome households will throw them out.

implying that when those few people that do still have desktops start having issues they will throw them out and not replace them. is this not in effect killing them off?

 

[Glaucus]

because you have a desk with a dock, keyboard, mouse and monitor, that 99% of the time will not be in use as you take the laptop out with you, so is a wasted space.

Lol compared, to all components costing a lot more sitting there unused 99% of the time. That is a **** argument. In fact thats an argument that doesn't support your view. That shows exactly why it's more cost effective to dock.

 

[Glaucus]

implying that when those few people that do still have desktops start having issues they will throw them out and not replace them. is this not in effect killing them off?

No, read my first post. Why is most of the public not replacing there desktop killing it off.

Since when did most/majority ever, in well ever, mean everyone.

 

[Diagro]

i don't think PC's are dieing out, have had a few builds this week... But saying that i have had 13 ipad screens and 30 iPhone 4 screens repaired... Hmm

 

[paradisiac]

Lol compared, to all components costing a lot more sitting there unused 99% of the time. That is a **** argument. In fact thats an argument that doesn't support your view. That shows exactly why it's more cost effective to dock.

I was not using it to argue my point, I was using it to point out the fact you are suggesting doing something, that you said was a problem when I mentioned it. no you don't have a desktop. but whilst carrying your tablet around as that is what you are doing, it gets knocked or stolen or something, and BANG you are computerless until fixed. with a static desktop the issue is far less. hence why I believe people currently do, and always will, prefer to have a centralised computer that they can rely on. and just have their own portable devices which they can sync with it when need be.

 

[Glaucus]

I was not using it to argue my point, I was using it to point out the fact you are suggesting doing something, that you said was a problem when I mentioned it. no you don't have a desktop. but whilst carrying your tablet around as that is what you are doing, it gets knocked or stolen or something, and BANG you are computerless until fixed. with a static desktop the issue is far less. hence why I believe people currently do, and always will, prefer to have a centralised computer that they can rely on. and just have their own portable devices which they can sync with it when need be.

It is a problem for some, you don't seem to understand that different people can do different things.

One group can ditch desktop and save space.
Another group can keep the desk and have a dock, but rather than having hundreds of pounds of eqipuipment sat there doing nothing for 20hours a day, can take their tablet with them and just dock it to the desk.

 

[Glaucus]

Is what you're really asking - would docking a tablet be an alternative to having a laptop or a desktop? If so the answer is yes for some people but it's not something I've been arguing against, in point of fact all I've said is that I don't like typing on touchscreens for any extended period of time.
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You said you wouldn't want to type on a touch screen, I was saying you don't have to and many companies allready use such a system of docking.

 

[sven256]

I was not using it to argue my point, I was using it to point out the fact you are suggesting doing something, that you said was a problem when I mentioned it. no you don't have a desktop. but whilst carrying your tablet around as that is what you are doing, it gets knocked or stolen or something, and BANG you are computerless until fixed. with a static desktop the issue is far less. hence why I believe people currently do, and always will, prefer to have a centralised computer that they can rely on. and just have their own portable devices which they can sync with it when need be.

But surly this is being covered by "cloud" computing?

For the general public this is fine for them ie it does everything they want, it's cheap, easy to use, and most of all they don't need to think or worry about it.

 

[Randomface74]

tablets are the new netbook.

i give it a couple of years tops

 

[paradisiac]

It is a problem for some, you don't seem to understand that different people can do different things.

One group can ditch desktop and save space.
Another group can keep the desk and have a dock, but rather than having hundreds of pounds of eqipuipment sat there doing nothing for 20hours a day, can take their tablet with them and just dock it to the desk.

yes, I agree with that. but my argument is, I don't feel there is a large enough proportion of people that will long term adopt this approach. we have sold many tablets, and within 6 months a large percentage have been either sold on the net or sold back to us to purchase a laptop again as they just don't get on with them for every day use. yes the novelty factor and it being a fashion accessory is there now. but once people realise that having to use it every day for long periods of time is not as easy as a laptop or desktop, this soon wears off and they revert back to something easier. as I said with the keyboards in cases, they just aren't comfortable or easy to use in the same way a laptop or desktop keyboard is.

 

[paradisiac]

But surly this is being covered by "cloud" computing?

For the general public this is fine for them ie it does everything they want, it's cheap, easy to use, and most of all they don't need to think or worry about it.

its only any good if you have a working device to access it on, which you wouldn't have if you removed the static pc from the equation. you would have to wait for your tablet to get repaired or hope a family member is nice enough to let you use theirs.

 

[sven256]

tablets are the new netbook.

i give it a couple of years tops

But it's not just tablets he has to worry about is it.

It's smart phones as well, and the biggest killer in 3-4 years will be internet tvs.

The general public will be able to do everything they want at home on their tv while they have their phone for the rest of the things they want on the go.

 

[semi-pro waster]

You said you wouldn't want to type on a touch screen, I was saying you don't have to and many companies allready use such a system of docking.

I'm perfectly well aware you can use docking stations but perhaps I don't want to have a docking station at home, maybe I prefer the self-contained nature of a laptop? Perhaps if I'm at a clients site they don't have a spare docking station for me to use so I either bring my own docking station or I have to type on a touchscreen? Just because there are ways round the issue doesn't necessarily mean that it completely ceases to be worth considering.

 

[sven256]

its only any good if you have a working device to access it on, which you wouldn't have if you removed the static pc from the equation. you would have to wait for your tablet to get repaired or hope a family member is nice enough to let you use theirs.

No different to if a pc broke is it?

And in 3-4 years as i stated smartphone will be vastly more powerful and internet tvs will be able to do 90% of tasks required.