tablets to replace PCs?

yes, I agree with that. but my argument is, I don't feel there is a large enough proportion of people that will long term adopt this approach. we have sold many tablets, and within 6 months a large percentage have been either sold on the net or sold back to us to purchase a laptop again as they just don't get on with them for every day use. yes the novelty factor and it being a fashion accessory is there now. but once people realise that having to use it every day for long periods of time is not as easy as a laptop or desktop, this soon wears off and they revert back to something easier. as I said with the keyboards in cases, they just aren't comfortable or easy to use in the same way a laptop or desktop keyboard is.

That's just rubbish, it's not a large amount resold at all. Go look at sale figures and market %. Anyone says people don't like them on mass have their heads in the sand.

Again go read news report from china, mobile devices have overtaken desktops for connecting to the Internet, go read and/intel that both expect desktop CPU sales to decline.

Let's come back in 4 years and see what the percentage and sale graphs look like.
 
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I'm perfectly well aware you can use docking stations but perhaps I don't want to have a docking station at home, maybe I prefer the self-contained nature of a laptop? Perhaps if I'm at a clients site they don't have a spare docking station for me to use so I either bring my own docking station or I have to type on a touchscreen? Just because there are ways round the issue doesn't necessarily mean that it completely ceases to be worth considering.

And as I said some people will always have desktops/other computers.
But those will be small markets. Which will have the knock on effect of increasing prices and turning more people away.

You will soon have the laptop/tablet hybrids which have been shown off on the run up to win8.
 
No different to if a pc broke is it?

And in 3-4 years as i stated smartphone will be vastly more powerful and internet tvs will be able to do 90% of tasks required.

a static pc is less likely to get broken or stolen than something you carry around with you every day.
 
a static pc is less likely to get broken or stolen than something you carry around with you every day.

Not by a great deal. But why would the average jo pay £xxx for a static when I can get a cloud service for free or next to nothing. Which will do the same thing, be more convenient, cheaper.


Also factor in what i also stated with the cloud service the average jo could access the could via his/her multiple devices ie tablet breaks oh lets use my smart phone to access my data, oh lets use my tv to do what I want.

You are focusing far too much on the the tablet, and not looking at the bigger picture.

The simple fact is the originals posters target audience is going to shrink a hell of a lot over the next 3-4 years.
 
Not by a great deal. But why would the average jo pay £xxx for a static when I can get a cloud service for free or next to nothing. Which will do the same thing, be more convenient, cheaper.


Also factor in what i also stated with the cloud service the average jo could access the could via his/her multiple devices ie tablet breaks oh lets use my smart phone to access my data, oh lets use my tv to do what I want.

You are focusing far too much on the the tablet, and not looking at the bigger picture.

The simple fact is the originals posters target audience is going to shrink a hell of a lot over the next 3-4 years.

time will tell I guess, but I cannot see it changing too much. no one mass jumped to netbooks because they were smaller and more portable. its a fad, that will be short lived in my opinion. people will have them, like they have smart phones now. but can anyone on here say they have sold their laptop and/or desktop because the smartphone has replaced it?
 
I can say my desktop is simply for gaming and the occasional letter/cv type thing. Which when win8 comes out will be changing when I can afford it.
It's simply as the iPad has a lacking OS and lacking varieties.

90% of time is spent on tablet
7% on phone
3% on desktop


Just have to wait to see prices, specs, attachments off win8 and go from there.
 
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I can say my desktop is simply for gaming and the occasional letter/cv type thing. Which when win8 comes out will be changing when I can afford it.
It's simply as the iPad has a lacking OS and lacking varieties.

90% of time is pent on tablet
7% on phine
3% on desktop


Just have to wait to see prices, specs, attachments off win8 and go from there.

I will get a windows 8 phone for sure, and I will at some point have a tablet. but I cannot see at any point not owning a laptop or desktop too.
 
time will tell I guess, but I cannot see it changing too much. no one mass jumped to netbooks because they were smaller and more portable. its a fad, that will be short lived in my opinion. people will have them, like they have smart phones now. but can anyone on here say they have sold their laptop and/or desktop because the smartphone has replaced it?

No i doubt anyone has sold sold their pc because of their smartphone due to screen size.

But what about when tvs can do 90% of what current pcs can do? They then have access to a large screen computer, that can do all of their tasks without spending extra going out and buying a pc.
 
I will get a windows 8 phone for sure, and I will at some point have a tablet. but I cannot see at any point not owning a laptop or desktop too.

I would rather have an x86 tablet that I can dock, seeing as so little time is spent on the desktop. I also want win8 pc on a stick to plug into the TVs. I won't be able to afford it straight away, but what I want is

Win8 phone
2xwin8 pc on a stick (hopfully someone will make them)
Win8 Rt tablet
Win8 x86 tablet maybe a hybrid.

Depending on battery life maybe able to combine the two tablets.
 
I would rather have an x86 tablet that I can dock, seeing as so little time is spent on the desktop. I also want win8 pc on a stick to plug into the TVs.

with endless amounts of SD cards with all your different games and programs on? and what about your films/music? you will then need external drives to cater for those too.
 
I'm perfectly well aware you can use docking stations but perhaps I don't want to have a docking station at home, maybe I prefer the self-contained nature of a laptop? Perhaps if I'm at a clients site they don't have a spare docking station for me to use so I either bring my own docking station or I have to type on a touchscreen? Just because there are ways round the issue doesn't necessarily mean that it completely ceases to be worth considering.

So you're a business user? Not a standard user then? You'll probably end up with a "transformer" instead. One that may have a removable keyboard but will almost certainly also include a touch screen.

That's just rubbish, it's not a large amount resold at all. Go look at sale figures and market %. Anyone says people don't like them on mass have their heads in the sand.

Again go read news report from china, mobile devices have overtaken desktops for connecting to the Internet, go read and/intel that both expect desktop CPU sales to decline.

Let's come back in 4 years and see what the percentage and sale graphs look like.

I assume he works at Currys or something like that so sells a lot of cheap tablets that people return after realising that you actually get what you pay for.
 
I think they will and I have seen the same. More and more people are using tablets for their browsing/gaming even work needs.

Obviously PC's still have a market and probably always will but that market is going to get much smaller. I really think your common home user will use console's/gaming TV's for games and tablet type devices for browing/word docs etc.

The PC's will be for those who need them mainly for work, i.e, 3D, programming, etc.

That's my thoughts anyway.
 
with endless amounts of SD cards with all your different games and programs on? and what about your films/music? you will then need external drives to cater for those too.

One external drive and they are all on skydrive anyway.

why sd cards. you make no sense. Probably why you think differently, you dont seem to understand the technology.
 
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I will get a windows 8 phone for sure, and I will at some point have a tablet. but I cannot see at any point not owning a laptop or desktop too.


I think that's the point nor can i FOR MYSELF But the average jo does not think like that. Which is 90+% of the population.

They just want to get online and that is all. The cheaper and more convenient the better.
 
I think that's the point nor can i FOR MYSELF But the average jo does not think like that. Which is 90+% of the population.

They just want to get online and that is all. The cheaper and more convenient the better.

but how cheap is a docking station, monitor, keyboard/mouse though? yes old people want to get on the net. but most want to used things like Skype to talk to relatives. I cannot see this being ideal on a tablet (although never used it for this, but have found typing a pain) so and for reading things like emails etc on a 7" screen for an elderly person cant be easy either.
 
One external drive and they are all on skydrive anyway.

why sd cards. you make no sense. Probably why you think differently, you dont seem to understand the technology.

because the whole point is to be portable :confused: and as most tablets will take an SD card without anything sticking out from the device, it would be the preferred method of storage. I don't know about where you live, but in cornwall we don't have hotspots everywhere, so skydrive is useless without a wifi connection is it not? so if I wanted to do work on the go, I would need some form of storage.
 
Having muscular dystrophy and needing to use software that kills lesser machines and having a passion games I am unable to play on anything but the most adaptable piece of computer hardware there is says the PC stays.

On an unselfish note, there are always users that need performance over and above the masses, pc is a test bed for almost any innovation in computing. It comes out as a MB component or an add-in card the ends up shrinking down into the next pocket toy.

If the PC go's back to niche for home users then we are only going back to our roots; the big question is price, if this happens are the prices going to spiral back to the equivalent of the early 90's for the best hardware.
 
time will tell I guess, but I cannot see it changing too much. no one mass jumped to netbooks because they were smaller and more portable. its a fad, that will be short lived in my opinion. people will have them, like they have smart phones now. but can anyone on here say they have sold their laptop and/or desktop because the smartphone has replaced it?

There wasn't a massive jump to netbooks because they were rubbish. Barely able to run windows (without anything intensive), poor screen resolution and poor battery life. They also crashed when the tablets came out as they were more suited to the tasks people were using netbooks for yet they were lighter, faster (for the tasks they wanted) and had a significantly better battery life.

Basically netbooks were for people who couldn't afford the £1000+ it cost to get a decent ultraportable. The release of low end iPads and Android tablets in the £200-400 range meant there was no need for them any more.

You'll also see in the near future that the ultraportable we know now (the ultrabooks (inc. the MB Air)) will change massively. They already are... The ultrabooks will start converting into slates with detachable keyboards for when they are not needed, still running x86 processors.

In a couple of years we will have a full compliment of netbook eating cheap Arm Tablets (Android, iOS, Win RT) and ultrabook eating x86 convertibles/tablets running Windows 8.

They won't destroy the markets they replace entirely, there will always be netbooks a conventional ultrabooks around but the market will shift towards the tablet forms. Much like we have seen over the last few years, first with the shift with consumers (and business) from desktops to laptops (see the high street electronics stores) and then from laptops to Tablets as they have got cheaper and cheaper. Many people will have both/all three, many people will just have a tablet for playing games and browsing the net, especially when Windows 8 and the other OSs really show what cloud computing can do (why use the same machine when you can get all the data on any machine you use?)

I fully expect in the next 5-10 years the next big jump to be from high powered devices to thin "terminals" with just a screen, battery and cloud connection. All the work done by central computers (be that be a personal home server in your house or one run by Microsoft or your company). You already have many companies that have all your work and account details on a central server so you can sign in and carry on from any computer in your office and you have many companies moving to thin clients where all the work is done on the central server. The biggest issue we have with this as a mainstream portable product is the bandwidth it needs. That will be overcome in a few years time and the idea of just having a sheet you can unfold/unroll to the size you want will really come into it's own. Imagine a 4" screen you use as your phone that you can unfold to an 8" screen a couple of mm thick and use to watch that film? That's where it's going.
 
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because the whole point is to be portable :confused: and as most tablets will take an SD card without anything sticking out from the device, it would be the preferred method of storage. I don't know about where you live, but in cornwall we don't have hotspots everywhere, so skydrive is useless without a wifi connection is it not? so if I wanted to do work on the go, I would need some form of storage.

becuase on the go you need 100s of GB of storage? you simply dont need that.
 
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