tablets to replace PCs?

Peripherals maybe peripherals but can you use your desktop with out a keyboard/mouse? No. Can you use a tablet with out a keyboard/mouse. Yes. So a tablet NEEDS them to be able to run bf3/wow/skyrim. Whats the use of that for something that is meant to be more mobile than a laptop? But when it comes to gaming it becomes less mobile? Usefull.

LoL. Less mobile than a desktop? Wtf are you on. It makes no difference.

You have a super mobile device that can play games and do everything a desktop can. The fact you can plugin extras makes ZERO difference. You are simply wrong in your first statement and now making silly arguments rather than just admitting you didn't understand what win8 was capable off.
 
LoL. Less mobile than a desktop? Wtf are you on. It makes no difference.

You have a super mobile device that can play games and do everything a desktop can. The fact you can plugin extras makes ZERO difference. You are simply wrong in your first statement and now making silly arguments rather than just admitting you didn't understand what win8 was capable off.

I know what win8 IS capable of. But that is not the question. It is the tablet platform that is the question. Super mobile? That maybe so. But my phone is also super mobile and it does everything I need whilst I am MOBILE. I said less mobile than a laptop. L2Read. And ofc it makes a difference Mobile platform "I want to game hm laptop or tablet..." tablet requires additional peripherals to be able to game... laptop does not.. really want to hike a keyboard + mouse around with a tablet at a LAN? uhm probably not when you can have it all in one bloody thing to carry. On a train, tablet "I'll type up a word document I think..." using a touchpad keyboard? Yeah cause thats going to be easy and just as fast as typing on a laptops keyboard? I think not.
 
That's not an argument for desktops > laptops, lol.

I wasn't using it as any form of argument to any affect in this instance. I was explaining how a laptop can be used as a centralised system :confused: at no point did I say either machine was better or worse than the other.
 
My prediction...

I don't think the PC market is going to die, there will always (for the foreseable future anyway) be a need for desktop PC power and processing in science and business.

However I think the performance PC market will continue over the next decade (deservedly, imo) to become increasingly niche to the point where only a few main companies are left to provide performance components. As consoles, phones and tablets continue to increase exponentially in power it will make PC gaming increasingly and more inevitably redundant (though many seem to keep fooling themselves into thinking this won't happen), and only the main powerhouse development houses will be left, and even then the vast majority of titles will be multi-format (few developed as PC-only, and even then only major big-seller franchises).

Tablets are so popular because they fulfil the majority of peoples simple computing needs... browsing, basic (though increasingly advanced) gaming, social networking... it's only when you start to get into more specific usage such as graphic art/design, advanced gaming and all the more intensive and accuracy-demanding tasks that a tablet falls short, and will do for a couple of years yet.

However, the ASUS transformer has already shown us how a tablet can function as a laptop even in its basic state, and as power starts to get serious then we will see the tablet eventually evolve to fully replace the laptop as an all-in-one device that can be attached to a docking station to provide a laptop experience, or removed to have the full sleek tablet experience. In conjunction with a games console (which I also believe will become increasingly irrelevant, but a fair bit further down the line) and Smart TV I don't think there will be any real need for a home PC down the line for anything other than an increasing minority of specialist users.

Phew. :p
 
I know what win8 IS capable of. But that is not the question. It is the tablet platform that is the question. Super mobile? That maybe so. But my phone is also super mobile and it does everything I need whilst I am MOBILE. I said less mobile than a laptop. L2Read. And ofc it makes a difference Mobile platform "I want to game hm laptop or tablet..." tablet requires additional peripherals to be able to game... laptop does not.. really want to hike a keyboard + mouse around with a tablet at a LAN? uhm probably not when you can have it all in one bloody thing to carry. On a train, tablet "I'll type up a word document I think..." using a touchpad keyboard? Yeah cause thats going to be easy and just as fast as typing on a laptops keyboard? I think not.

You really want to kike a desktop to play?

You clearly don't know what win8 is cable of seeing as there are tablet/laptop hybrids, so everything in same size as laptop with more flexibility and options. Why you suddenly switched to laptops you where on about desktops a second ago.
 
You really want to kike a desktop to play?

You clearly don't know what win8 is cable of seeing as there are tablet/laptop hybrids, so everything in same size as laptop with more flexibility and options. Why you suddenly switched to laptops you where on about desktops a second ago.

Prodigy ITX build for a desktop piece of cake. More power than a lappy and tablet. Simple really.
 
Oh, well I'd said it can be used as a centralised system (plugged in a 'home location' in the house, where the printer's situated, or whatever)... then if they want they can use it in the front room whilst watching the TV, or in the kitchen when doing whatever).

yeh I agree that might be why some people buy a laptop over a desktop, but my point was in reply to the 'but people buy laptops so they can take them with them so they will get a tablet instead' comments, was I know people that get a laptop over a desktop so they can put it in a drawer when not in use, and get it out when they want to use it, not transport it around.
this would not happen with a tablet, as they would need to store the tablet, a 15" monitor, keyboard and mouse in the drawer too. so it wouldn't be practical even though it might be more portable.
 
Prodigy ITX build for a desktop piece of cake. More power than a lappy and tablet. Simple really.

Lol, you going to set that up on a train, car or anywhere else.

The point of next gen tablets is you don't have to have equipment sat around not being used. You can use it as a tablet, you can use it as a full fledged laptop which you wouldn't be able to tell was a tablet and you can dock it and use it as a desktop. Three uses from one device. Your money being utilized fully. Rather than buying multiple devices of which several of them will be sat doing nothing.

So back to your original statement of they can't do what a desktop does, is simply wrong, there's no two ways about it.
 
this would not happen with a tablet, as they would need to store the tablet, a 15" monitor, keyboard and mouse in the drawer too. so it wouldn't be practical even though it might be more portable.

no, you're changing the goal post.

If they use a laptop as their main device, why would they then need to store a monitor, keyboard and mouse. They wouldn't. They would either use a tablet or buy a hybrid. You seem to like making scenarios up, without thinking about it.
 
You really want to kike a desktop to play?

You clearly don't know what win8 is cable of seeing as there are tablet/laptop hybrids, so everything in same size as laptop with more flexibility and options. Why you suddenly switched to laptops you where on about desktops a second ago.

I get the idea of the hybrids, but that will not be purchased most of the time by choice, I imagine it will be something forced on people. it will be either a desktop, hybrid or tablet. I think laptops will get phased out if anything, not desktops.

I don't think this is a bad thing mind.
 
I get the idea of the hybrids, but that will not be purchased most of the time by choice, I imagine it will be something forced on people. it will be either a desktop, hybrid or tablet. I think laptops will get phased out if anything, not desktops.

I don't think this is a bad thing mind.

It'll be purchased by what people want to do. If they want a tablet, but also like tablets. The chances are they will buy a hybrid. Few people are going to drop large sums off money on essentially the same device, when on device does both.

I actually thing hybrid devices are going to explode in sales.
 
no, you're changing the goal post.

If they use a laptop as their main device, why would they then need to store a monitor, keyboard and mouse. They wouldn't. They would either use a tablet or buy a hybrid. You seem to like making scenarios up, without thinking about it.

yes, refer to my post above ;)


I wasn't shifting goalposts, I was explaining why they would not swap a laptop for a tablet. I did not mention hybrids or anything.
 
yes, refer to my post above ;)


I wasn't shifting goalposts, I was explaining why they would not swap a laptop for a tablet. I did not mention hybrids or anything.

No you didn't. You said that if they ditched the laptop, they old then have to store a screen/keyboaqrd&mouse. Which is clearly not going to happen. Why would that happen. You simply said that to support your argument, regardless of how that wouldn't happen.
 
No you didn't. You said that if they ditched the laptop, they old then have to store a screen/keyboaqrd&mouse. Which is clearly not going to happen. Why would that happen. You simply said that to support your argument, regardless of how that wouldn't happen.

they would not work on a 7-10" screen, so they would need a monitor unless 15"+ tablets are going to become the norm and cheap?
 
they would not work on a 7-10" screen, so they would need a monitor unless 15"+ tablets are going to become the norm and cheap?

Because all tablets are 7-10 inch are they?

You may want to go look at win8 range, especially the tablet hybrids.
So no there would be no need to store all that stuff and that doesn't explain keyboard and mouse either.
 
im not saying they all are, I said will the be the norm and at a competitive price to current laptops?

What's the norm? What's the cost of aphaving multiple equipment?

Norm doesn't matter, what matters is what you can buy to fullfill your needs and in many cases that is going to be the cheapest cumulative cost. Which isn't owning three devices that aren't going to be used at the same time.

The range of win8 devices is allready huge and it hasn't even been released yet. Meaning you can tailor to your needs. Be it a 7" arm tablet, tablet with keyboard case, a tablet that acts like a laptop till you disconnect it. Or anything else manufactures think of and at many different sizes. 12" will be added to the normall 7" and 10" existing ranges.
 
What's the norm? What's the cost of aphaving multiple equipment?

Norm doesn't matter, what matters is what you can buy to fullfill your needs and in many cases that is going to be the cheapest cumulative cost. Which isn't owning three devices that aren't going to be used at the same time.

The range of win8 devices is allready huge and it hasn't even been released yet.

but people will have multiple items regardless. unless you and your 2 daughters can take the same hybrid to work/school at the same time :confused: I think you completely miss the point. I think people will have 1, read it, 1 static machine, beit a desktop or laptop, that stays in the home, and then their own devices to take away. that is not multiple items at all, as they would all need portable devices whether there is a static machine or not.
 
Define work? I use my desktop for leisure.

Gaming (FPS)
Photoshop
Music editing
Video editing

None of the above can you do on a tablet..

I'd consider all of that to fall under 'work'

The majority of people I know only want to do these things..
check email
check facebook
online banking
music
youtube
 
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