Problem is the West isn't willing to take the upfront short term costs for the longer term effect. Mobilising civilian workforces, etc. and combining budgets to alleviate things like the gas situation.
Taiwan and China thread.
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Problem is the West isn't willing to take the upfront short term costs for the longer term effect. Mobilising civilian workforces, etc. and combining budgets to alleviate things like the gas situation.
Soldato
Some of that might have a small bearing but ultimately it comes down to the One China rule https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_China
This has been bubbling for a long time, lets hope the US deliberately ambiguous agreement to help Taiwan defend itself holds up. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwan_Relations_Act
seems like it's draining the whole of the EU and people will only blame Russia for so long before they start to turn on their leaders and representatives who put everyone in a silly situation of energy reliance from an enemy state int he first place.
must be creating a nice atmosphere within the EU of solidarity
especially when some places are refusing to cut back
Soldato
seems like it's draining the whole of the EU and people will only blame Russia for so long before they start to turn on their leaders and representatives who put everyone in a silly situation of energy reliance from an enemy state int he first place.
must be creating a nice atmosphere within the EU of solidarity
The EU always claimed solidarity but Merkel wanted solidarity with Russia too.
Soldato
Fair play is what I say stand up to these dictators!
Looks more like a military build up like Putin’s special military operation/exercise/war…
Next few days things are gonna be a bit precarious IMO potentially precipitating a full blown crisis depending on how China decides to respond. Xi may feel like there is no choice but to escalate due to the risk of appearing weakened by the situation.
Soldato
The US acting to incite a reaction they knew they'd get. And now we have threat of another conflict. Great.
Caporegime
Terrifying. Why do the worlds biggest, most powerful countries have such aggressive and woeful leaders?
Can't see China having much success with what they've assembled so far - the Naval forces alone couldn't do much, amphibious warfare capabilities just aren't there vs an opposed landing let alone the ability to transfer a lot of the heavier equipment and artillery systems which won't do much good from the mainland. Never mind the airbases to support the tempo of operations required.
They could try to suffocate Taiwan long and slow though by kicking off a disruptive military campaign against them rather than a decisive one.
EDIT: If they continue to build up longer range missile forces though in the Fujian region that is only for one reason though.
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They are an island and China have one of if not the biggest navy in the World. They could isolate them nothing gets in or out.
Not so sure, they have to realise the massive economic consequences of attempting it, they will have even more people at home questioning the status quo when the economy tanks due to western countries pulling out and sanctions.
The cost in Chinese military lives attempting that crossing will be imense.
How do you think they become powerful countries? With weak leaders?
Big, not better, not by a looooong way.
Also Taiwan has anti ship missiles probably lots and lots of them and an airforce that isn't equipped with russian knock offs, they will make a blockade tricky at best.
I guess these islands could be the canary in the coal mine so to speak, they're so close to the Chinese mainland:
It probably shouldn't, they've developed far better as an independent country without China. They were a Japanese dependency for about 50 or so years until the end of WW2, they'd be better as part of Japan than as part of China.
It probably shouldn't, they've developed far better as an independent country without China. They were a Japanese dependency for about 50 or so years until the end of WW2, they'd be better as part of Japan than as part of China.
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Soldato
They may have the numbers, but the PLAN is on par with the Russian Navy. It just looks shinier because the ships are new.
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The may have enough to blockcade Taiwan though. People are saying they can’t invade because of amphibious capability, well who said they need to invade.
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They have capability to invade although it wouldn't be wise because most of their landing craft are civilian roro boats
