Taiwan and China thread.

Minusorange said:
They have capability to invade although it wouldn't be wise because most of their landing craft are civilian roro boats :cry:
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Maybe or maybe they are being underestimated.

"China's navy battle force has more than tripled in size in only two decades," read a December report by the leaders of the US Navy, Marines and Coast Guard.

"Already commanding the world's largest naval force, the People's Republic of China is building modern surface combatants, submarines, aircraft carriers, fighter jets, amphibious assault ships, ballistic nuclear missile submarines, large coast guard cutters, and polar icebreakers at alarming speed."

Some of those will be the equal or better of anything the US or other naval powers can put in the water.

"The PLAN is not receiving junk from China's shipbuilding industry but rather increasingly sophisticated, capable vessels," Andrew Erickson, a professor at the US Naval War College's China Maritime Studies Institute, wrote in a February paper.
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amp.cnn.com

Analysis: China has built the world's largest navy. Now what's Beijing going to do with it?

At some point between 2015 and today, China has assembled the world's largest naval force. And now it's working to make it formidable far from its shores.
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I mean I am by no means an expert on this, Should China invade Taiwan, a response from the US, and or NATO would have to measured and be swift, and if they have been preparing for such a situation I don't see how China could hope to succeed.
 
China won’t do crap. They know they are massively outmatched. Have they not seen what happened when the US military was awoken during WW2. The US navy would obliterate the Chinese navy and then could just starve the whole country. The US is battle tested and is unmatched in logistics, China has little experience other than getting walked over historically time and time again. One day maybe, but not now.
 
I don't think China would invade Taiwan at the moment, but then I also didn't think Russia was stupid enough to invade Ukraine.

Taiwan is incredibly important for the semi conductor industry globally, and US rely on them a lot more than most.

I hope if China ever fully threatens to take it, that Taiwan blows the fabs up and moves operations elsewhere. Better than putting control into the hands of China.
 
Don’t both China mainland and China Taipei see themselves as China? Unresolved civil war?

Why do we care? Genuine Q. Apart from a hang over for backing the looser Chiang chai-shek who was no glorious democrat himself.
Is it just communist bad, or is there some other reason the united China is a bad thing?

Split between uk and USA policies.
 
Are Taiwan not absolutely brimming with anti ship weapons all along the cost and with a fantastically modern Air Force?
 
Custor said:
Don’t both China mainland and China Taipei see themselves as China? Unresolved civil war?

Why do we care? Genuine Q. Apart from a hang over for backing the looser Chiang chai-shek who was no glorious democrat himself.
Is it just communist bad, or is there some other reason the united China is a bad thing?

Split between uk and USA policies.
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Semiconductor and other chip manufacturing.

Its more than just about communist bad.
 
bingham67 said:
Surprised your not giving us the air situation updates @Rroff apparently its quite busy from what im seeing.

Thats how it all started in the Russia thread those were the days!
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I'm busy watching other stuff - too much going on to cover it all.

Doobedoo said:
Maybe or maybe they are being underestimated.
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I don't think they are there yet - but they are certainly putting efforts into it. One of the problems is the tempo/sortie rate of operations required - for a decisive outcome they need to be able to turn around ships and aircraft far more frequently than their current deployments would allow and while they are building the infrastructure they are still 3-5 years off.
 
Malevolence said:
They may have the numbers, but the PLAN is on par with the Russian Navy. It just looks shinier because the ships are new.
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Technically speaking it's more than on par. I.E China have TWO Kuznetsov class aircraft carriers, Russia only have the one ^^

It is kind of comical that Russia recently had to purpose build an entire dock in order to give their failing ship it's first maintenance/service in 30+ years because they were too stubborn/embarrassed to ask China to do it for them xD (well, they could have asked Ukraine to do it for them too, but I doubt it would have gone down well :p).
 
HungryHippos said:
I hope if China ever fully threatens to take it, that Taiwan blows the fabs up and moves operations elsewhere. Better than putting control into the hands of China.
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Even if they didn't blow it up we wouldn't be able to keep using them if they were under Chinese control as they'd just steal the technology.

Anything security sensitive / advanced would have to go elsewhere and that capacity doesn't exist.
 
ubersonic said:
Technically speaking it's more than on par. I.E China have TWO Kuznetsov class aircraft carriers, Russia only have the one ^^

It is kind of comical that Russia recently had to purpose build an entire dock in order to give their failing ship it's first maintenance/service in 30+ years because they were too stubborn/embarrassed to ask China to do it for them xD (well, they could have asked Ukraine to do it for them too, but I doubt it would have gone down well :p).
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Russian only have a single carrier of the class of carrier they build? Strange.
 
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