Taiwan and China thread.

I'm beginning to wonder if we are underestimating the threat of China, they don't play by our rules and I think far too much is being seen through the lens of our rules resulting in far less preparation in case of the worst case than might be advisable.

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Radio silence on diplomatic channels is not a good sign at all, while probably "nothing" it is far too often the precursor to serious events/action but seems to be being taken fairly casually.
 
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With America occupied by supplying Urkraine against Russia it does seem an opportune time for them to push their agenda/expansion even more, if they are militarily ready enough to cope with a distracted US.

Though I guess if China did do something against Taiwan, then the US's attention would be primarily on that to the detriment of support for Ukraine.
 
Freakbro said:
With America occupied by supplying Urkraine against Russia it does seem an opportune time for them to push their agenda/expansion even more, if they are militarily ready enough to cope with a distracted US.

Though I guess if China did do something against Taiwan, then the US's attention would be primarily on that to the detriment of support for Ukraine.
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The US aren't distracted. Do you realise the sheer size of their resources? They have given Ukraine a tiny tiny amount in comparison to what they have, should they ever actually need it.
 
Freakbro said:
With America occupied by supplying Urkraine against Russia it does seem an opportune time for them to push their agenda/expansion even more, if they are militarily ready enough to cope with a distracted US.

Though I guess if China did do something against Taiwan, then the US's attention would be primarily on that to the detriment of support for Ukraine.
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There were leaks early on in the Ukraine war, probably genuine, that Russian military command were under the impression that China would make moves including against Taiwan at the end of 2022. I'm guessing, or maybe Ukraine was the litmus, they were under the impression the West had become weak and would roll over in the face of aggressive military action.
 
Stumble Bum said:
The US aren't distracted. Do you realise the sheer size of their resources? They have given Ukraine a tiny tiny amount in comparison to what they have, should they ever actually need it.
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Sure, I know they say the US military is designed to fight on two fronts, but logically they are still going to be more focussed when only fighting on one. And I wasn't thinking just about the amount of hardware, more the logistics of supply and manufacture of ammunition. From what I've read recently 'the West' hasn't ramped up production enough yet to cover the amount of shells Ukraine are using?
 
Well it's great then that the president is not a despotic emperor and that majority of government is done largely without need of the executive.
 
VincentHanna said:
The US aren't fighting on any fronts at the moment.

Supplying funding and arms isn't fighting
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The US is significantly involved in Ukraine directly or for their own purposes in intelligence gathering and logistics however - the reach logistic capabilities have been working tirelessly to keep supplies moving into Ukraine (probably at about 1/3rd of their surge capacity). Many many hours of air missions have been flown either manned or UAV for intelligence gathering and so on.

I'd say future looking to this region and China was a significant factor in the Afghanistan drawdown so as to not have capabilities spread too thin and trying to coordinate too wide.
 
The IMF puts out warnings about the Chinese economy.

They're saying the world is decoupling from China as a manufacturing hub and therefore their economy is at big risk if they don't effectively diversify away from manufacturing and start switching to a consumption and service based economy




If they can't sort it out, they'll be seeing more of this - containers and ships parked with nothing to transport because demand for Chinese goods crashes and factory workers lose their jobs

 
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Chris Wilson said:
It's not entirely comforting with the US having a senile old gentleman in charge who needs guiding off the stage at this moment in time, either.
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True.

It would be wonderful if they had someone relatively young, articulate, well educated and intelligent like they had with Obama.

Not sure why the USA turned to voting in senile old codgers like Trump and Biden.
 
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Grim5 said:
The IMF puts out warnings about the Chinese economy.

They're saying the world is decoupling from China as a manufacturing hub and therefore their economy is at big risk if they don't effectively diversify away from manufacturing and start switching to a consumption and service based economy


If they can't sort it out, they'll be seeing more of this - containers and ships parked with nothing to transport because demand for Chinese goods crashes and factory workers lose their jobs
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Question is how China sees it - they might not see it the same way we do, rather than adapt their response might be to try and sabotage what is making them obsolete or even turn to military means, etc.
 
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