Taiwan and China thread.

[ianh]

As a rough guess, if you know where specific radars and missiles are on a ship and what they do, you could train AI to recognise those as specific target points and then use that AI to guide lots of small quadcopter sized explosive carrying drones launched from nearby "civilian" ships, which are too small & slow to be intercepted by missiles, to wreck those radars and missiles, which then leaves those ships blind and defenceless to the later salvo of ASM's from the PLAN.

There's been quite a few unexplained "drone shows" around US vessels over the past few years inside military test zones so there's no reasonable explanation of civilian usage, which generally means someone's military somewhere is testing things against the US for a reason.

Or you know..................Aliens

 

[Grim5]

Taiwan has unveiled its latest naval suicide/attack drone, intended to take out any size Chinese ship.

The US indo Pacific commander also stated that drones are becoming a key defense strategy for the region. He says in the event China tries to cross the straight, the US and Taiwan will launch thousands of suicide drones to turn the straight into a graveyard for ships, and buy time for the US military to deploy

Taiwan is one-upping Ukraine's navy to defeat a Chinese invasion

Taiwan is taking a cue from Ukraine's successful use of naval drones to try to defeat China's formidable navy.

www.businessinsider.com

 

[rypt]

Or you know..................Aliens

I think it's aliens personally

 

[arknor]

the US and Taiwan will launch thousands of suicide drones to turn the straight into a graveyard for ships, and buy time for the US military to deploy

the USA has never backed Taiwans independence ? why would they join a war against China....

Why Does the United States Oppose Taiwanese Independence?

The U.S. – along with Taiwanese people – draws the important distinction between de jure Taiwanese independence and the existing status quo of Taiwanese autonomy and self-governance.

thediplomat.com

44% of the worlds shipping moves through he Taiwanese straight btw, imagine all the economies of the world collapsing just for Taiwan

 

[Grim5]

the USA has never backed Taiwans independence ? why would they join a war against China....

Why Does the United States Oppose Taiwanese Independence?

The U.S. – along with Taiwanese people – draws the important distinction between de jure Taiwanese independence and the existing status quo of Taiwanese autonomy and self-governance.

thediplomat.com

44% of the worlds shipping moves through he Taiwanese straight btw, imagine all the economies of the world collapsing just for Taiwan

Oh I know. I may have previously mentioned it, but America going to war with China, or China at war with Taiwan would put the world in a severe economic recession, possibly even a depression, and countries more reliant on global trade would be more affected.

 

[GGizmo]

I got a leaflet today through the door that had multiple pages covering all different subjects to do with the Communist party in China.

They have a Web address, ENDCCP dot com.

It's the first time I've ever seen a subject like this on a leaflet, and put through my door.

As anyone else had a leaflet like this? Or have heard of the people who produced it?

 

[GGizmo]

I guess I must be special

 

[Puzzled]

I guess I must be special

You have been chosen as the one to bring down the CCP.

Good luck

 

[Grim5]

Minsk carrier on fire

https://twitter.com/x/status/1824469247441113180

 

[Noxia]

Damn, think of all the money that tourist attraction was making.. Love how that's been posted with no context to make people think it was an in-service vessel, and then posted in here

 

[Grim5]

It was undergoing maintenance/repairs/upgrades as part of a attraction, and now it's on fire

 

[Noxia]

Yes and what does that have to do wit the China/Taiwan situation? No need to be embarrassed that you thought it was in service.

 

[Rroff]

Had me confused for a moment - wasn't aware it was an attraction but knew it wasn't one of their in service carriers because they have names like Liaoning not Soviet/Russian names.

 

[ianh]

The fire is out now, most of the forward superstructure is virtually destroyed -

https://twitter.com/x/status/1824653101040857527

 

[StriderX]

I wonder what the chances are that it was sabotage considering it was of practically zero value to China's military it would be a nice target for some black-ops tomfoolery.

Then again it's hardly like China needs any help with it's low-effort maintenance.

 

[Noxia]

I wonder what the chances are that it was sabotage considering it was of practically zero value to China's military it would be a nice target for some black-ops tomfoolery.

Then again it's hardly like China needs any help with it's low-effort maintenance.

Zero. It had absolutely no military value or capability.

 

[StriderX]

Zero. It had absolutely no military value or capability.

I mean it could have soaked up a few anti-ship missiles... thats some value.

 

[Noxia]

I mean it could have soaked up a few anti-ship missiles... thats some value.

I reckon intelligence services might just have known it was a museum lol. I guess scrap value if we're really clutching at straws

 

[dowie]

I wonder what the chances are that it was sabotage considering it was of practically zero value to China's military it would be a nice target for some black-ops tomfoolery.

Then again it's hardly like China needs any help with it's low-effort maintenance.

It seems unlikely, much more likely it was just the result of being an old dodgy Soviet ship.

Not much value in destroying it other than as a PR blow for the regime, I guess maybe if some agent/asset had access to it and could induce a fault/accident with low risk of being caught then it could be but it doesn't seem likely.

 

[ianh]

If anything it'd be either an insurance job or, most likely, shody workmen during the refurb.

It had literally zero "military" use, try to imagine it being the same as USS Intrepid, the old US Carrier that's a museum in New York, that's all this was, just for China instead - an old museum piece with old aircraft (non-carrier ones) on the flight deck.