Tate Brothers - Round 2

I guess it depends if she was keeping it real and saying the medieval "I will obey" part of the vows.

I'm not sure about elsewhere, but marriage in medieval England didn't require any vows. It just required that two people with a legal right to marry each other stated that they were married to each other. Just that, nothing else. No vows, no rituals, no clerics. People could do those things as well, but those things had nothing to do with whether or not they were married. It's possible that things might have been different in the early medieval period. There's far less surviving written material from then, so a lot is less clear than it is for the high and late medieval periods. But people almost always mean high and late medieval when they refer to the medieval period.

The standard vows of most sects didn't have the "obey" vows. The "obey" vows that were used in a few sects (and which I think are not medieval, though I'm not sure about that) also have the husband vow to worship the wife. If the vows are interpreted literally, that would include obedience, be more extreme than obedience and be a very weird vow for a monotheistic religion that absolutely bans worshipping anything other than the deity of that religion. So those parts of the vows obviously weren't supposed to be interpreted literally anyway.
 
I'm honestly a little confused even as a wholehearted critic about how this guy only managed to scam 10 mil out of his fans... either his fans are far poorer than I thought or far smarter than I give them credit.
 
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I'm not sure about elsewhere, but marriage in medieval England didn't require any vows. It just required that two people with a legal right to marry each other stated that they were married to each other. Just that, nothing else. No vows, no rituals, no clerics. People could do those things as well, but those things had nothing to do with whether or not they were married. It's possible that things might have been different in the early medieval period. There's far less surviving written material from then, so a lot is less clear than it is for the high and late medieval periods. But people almost always mean high and late medieval when they refer to the medieval period.

The standard vows of most sects didn't have the "obey" vows. The "obey" vows that were used in a few sects (and which I think are not medieval, though I'm not sure about that) also have the husband vow to worship the wife. If the vows are interpreted literally, that would include obedience, be more extreme than obedience and be a very weird vow for a monotheistic religion that absolutely bans worshipping anything other than the deity of that religion. So those parts of the vows obviously weren't supposed to be interpreted literally anyway.

Lol it was a joke man, jeez I thought it was so obvious it didn't even need a ;)
I thought the keeping it real bit may have been a clue :)

I was just simply mocking someone being that controlling.

FWIW I think the whole of the vows are a bit LOL. :)
 
Yes, I suspect this is a bit out of the league of Romanian forensic accountants.
I dunno about that... if he had anywhere near the amount of money he constantly exclaimed he had then he could surely just act like any other billionaire by pretending the law doesn't exist and I'm sure there's still a few folks among Romania's elite more than happy to perturb their ethics for a big fat bag of gold. So something is clearly wrong wit this picture.
 
Yes, I suspect this is a bit out of the league of Romanian forensic accountants.

You an expert on Romanian forensic accountancy then?

Most investigations will be farmed out to a company who absolutely will have experts for cross border investigation along with the national HMRC equivalent.
HMRC for example have some really good people in this area but still use specialists if needed, or may well get the help of IRS and other national equivalents.
 
There's nothing to account.
95% will be dissapeared into crypto
The rest will be legit tax paying business transaction and casino stuff. He's not a genius criminal, clever shrewd conman with an ego who appears to have talked himself into a life long matrix prison pod.
 
You an expert on Romanian forensic accountancy then?

Most investigations will be farmed out to a company who absolutely will have experts for cross border investigation along with the national HMRC equivalent.
HMRC for example have some really good people in this area but still use specialists if needed, or may well get the help of IRS and other national equivalents.


Yes, yes I am - what would you like to know?
 
There's nothing to account.
95% will be dissapeared into crypto
The rest will be legit tax paying business transaction and casino stuff. He's not a genius criminal, clever shrewd conman with an ego who appears to have talked himself into a life long matrix prison pod.

They already recovered a 21BTC holding which is a fair amount.*
Hes supposed to be worth around $500M from what I heard. 21 BTC is a very decent chunk of that if so. Even if you value it pre recent rise its a high % of $500M

* It does seem odd but thats whats claimed. It could be he was a bit of a dummy with his codes or something.
 
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It wouldn't surprise me. Half of Romania is still waiting to discover fire.



I doubt he's worth even a quarter of that.

Maybe, these sorts are typically very difficult to value.
There was talk historically of $1M for some of his fights which was supposed to be behind most of his wealth.
Coudl all be BS. Certainly any claims on wealth by Tate himself I wuold consider BS ;)

If the BTC seizure was true 21 would be the majority of his wealth I would say.

Its completely possible hes a Trump though your right.

Edit to add the BTC "source" https://www.binance.com/en/feed/post/673563

Edit 2, some claims Andrew had 5 in his gfs hardware wallet, and Tristan had 16.

Views seem to differ on some details but the recovery of 21 BTC seems fairly well accepted.
 
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They already recovered a 21BTC holding which is a fair amount.*
Hes supposed to be worth around $500M from what I heard. 21 BTC is a very decent chunk of that if so. Even if you value it pre recent rise its a high % of $500M

* It does seem odd but thats whats claimed. It could be he was a bit of a dummy with his codes or something.
Am I misreading your post ?

1 Btc is currently about £23,500, 21 would be worth currently £495,000 ish .. $630,000 ish not $500m ( about £390,000,000)

At Btcs absolute high of around £51,000, it would be just over £1m, a nice amount yes, but a small percentage of £390 million .
 
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There's nothing to account.
95% will be dissapeared into crypto
The rest will be legit tax paying business transaction and casino stuff. He's not a genius criminal, clever shrewd conman with an ego who appears to have talked himself into a life long matrix prison pod.
If the dude has hundreds of millions then he wouldn't be headed for life imprisonment in a poor country would he?
 
It will be interesting to see how this goes, he's done and said some sketchy things so it's really not difficult to imagine he's guilty, he's always come across as a grifter to me... Difficult to take moral advice from someone who is ok with digital prostitution, and an Islam convert.

Hope we get to see what evidence they have, or if they have none and they're planning on putting him through hell for the next hell 10 years, which wouldn't surprise me either. :D
 
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Remember Romania had to charge him or let him go.

I'm interested in the female evidence against him. Because the prosecution says they are victims and he is saying even though they are listed as victims they say they aren't. So it'll be interesting to find out the truth.
 
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