Tate Brothers - Round 2

[n111ck]

Indeed this was my understanding. There could be other stuff that they are trying to collect more evidence of, who knows.

Hate to bring it back to the Huw case but its got interesting parallels.
People mention the expensive lawyer, inferring that the "victim" could be benefitting somehow for denying the accusation.
And also that the victim could be lying. Same can happen here. Especially if there has been significant threats in the past in regards say violence if someone was to go to the police.
Its not unheard of that victims are so under the influence of the accused that they will deny anything despite there being strong evidence that the crime did take place.

So you mean, for example, the victim may not allege a crime has taken place if the perpetrator is financially compensating the victim (say with money for crack) and this would then restrict any police action despite a crime having been committed?

 

[Mercenary Keyboard Warrior]

So you mean, for example, the victim may not allege a crime has taken place if the perpetrator is financially compensating the victim (say with money for crack) and this would then restrict any police action despite a crime having been committed?

Its possible if there was only limited evidence available that if the victim was to not provide that evidence or specifically avoid it being available then it could reduce the charges or possibility of conviction.

My mate who is a lawyer says "no body, no charge".

 

[n111ck]

Its possible if there was only limited evidence available that if the victim was to not provide that evidence or specifically avoid it being available then it could reduce the charges or possibility of conviction.

My mate who is a lawyer says "no body, no charge".

So in others words the police being unable to take action is not proof of innocence and if you were, say, the parents of the victim that might be quite frustrating and encourage you to seek help elsewhere, maybe the persons employer or even the press...

 

[Mercenary Keyboard Warrior]

So in others words the police being unable to take action is not proof of innocence and if you were, say, the parents of the victim that might be quite frustrating and encourage you to seek help elsewhere, maybe the persons employer or even the press...

Yes I am not sure that this should be news

Young and vulnerable, under the influence of a self professed alpha male. Its not surprising the police would be balancing the is this person telling the truth, are they scared, had they previously been conditioned to deny etc
Thats what you meant to write in the Tate thread right...

 

[n111ck]

Yes I am not sure that this should be news

Young and vulnerable, under the influence of a self professed alpha male. Its not surprising the police would be balancing the is this person telling the truth, are they scared, had they previously been conditioned to deny etc
Thats what you meant to write in the Tate thread right...

There are definite parallels to other threads (except the alpha male bit lol)..

 

[Mercenary Keyboard Warrior]

There are definite parallels to other threads (except the alpha male bit lol)..

Poor Wootton

 

[Colonel_Klinck]

It's pretty obvious to anyone who's looked into this that Andrew Tate hasn't actually done anything, the women have openly said they were always treated well and looked after and they don't consider themselves victims. It's some bizarre witch hunt seemingly because he's an influencer who says things that people don't like. I think people should try and separate things that are said for social media, as click bait, jokes, etc, to get likes and follows from who the people really are. Andrew Tate has a family and kids, no women who actually know him have a bad word to say about him, by all accounts he's not a bad bloke. He just has controversial views which seem to be enough that people want to see him locked up.

Ahh he's just a misunderstood nice guy really. He wouldn't rape or abuse women, because no guy who is able to pull girls has ever raped or abused women right? Men only rape and abuse women because they can't get laid, not because they enjoy control and humiliating women. All those messages released where he told "his girls" that they weren't allowed to leave his property without an escort were because he was just concerned about their safety right? Not because he is a controlling douche bag who likes to break women. control and exploit them.

You really are a sucker for these types aren't you. If you were a women you'd likely be there having to ask permission to speak to someone or go to the shops.

 

[Colonel_Klinck]

Indeed this was my understanding. There could be other stuff that they are trying to collect more evidence of, who knows.

Hate to bring it back to the Huw case but its got interesting parallels.
People mention the expensive lawyer, inferring that the "victim" could be benefitting somehow for denying the accusation.
And also that the victim could be lying. Same can happen here. Especially if there has been significant threats in the past in regards say violence if someone was to go to the police.
Its not unheard of that victims are so under the influence of the accused that they will deny anything despite there being strong evidence that the crime did take place.

Are you insinuating that a lawyer is perverting the course of justice by offering the "victim" money to change their story and hide a crime?

And the evidence of threats of violence or intimidation are where with Huw? The Romanians seem to have no shortage of messages from Tate and his brother controlling their girls and stopping them from doing something as simple as going to the shops or talking to family.

 

[Chris Wilson]

I suspect Colonel_Klinck is the sort of maniac who saw giving women the vote as progress

 

[n111ck]

Are you insinuating that a lawyer is perverting the course of justice by offering the "victim" money to change their story and hide a crime?

And the evidence of threats of violence or intimidation are where with Huw? The Romanians seem to have no shortage of messages from Tate and his brother controlling their girls and stopping them from doing something as simple as going to the shops or talking to family.

Re Huw The BBC have evidence of threats as he used a BBC mobile to make them..

 

[GGizmo]

Its possible if there was only limited evidence available that if the victim was to not provide that evidence or specifically avoid it being available then it could reduce the charges or possibility of conviction.

My mate who is a lawyer says "no body, no charge".

The women that are being used as evidence by the police have consistently said they aren't victims.

Another possibility why they might not want to give evidence against Tate is because they are making a lot of money themselves in the arrangement.

I'm not sure of the legal status of prostitution in Romania, but they might be at risk of incriminating themselves.

 

[spolsh]

The women that are being used as evidence by the police have consistently said they aren't victims.

Another possibility why they might not want to give evidence against Tate is because they are making a lot of money themselves in the arrangement.

I'm not sure of the legal status of prostitution in Romania, but they might be at risk of incriminating themselves.

Or they could be absolutely terrified of him even now.

 

[GGizmo]

Or they could be absolutely terrified of him even now.

There is a lot of circumstantial evidence against him in his own words.

So he's either going down for a long time at court or he'll be released and we'll never hear the end of it.

He's still not repented against his web cam business, even though its haram in Islam, his new religion.

Does anyone know when the case starts in court?

 

[Colonel_Klinck]

Why the angry emoji @Mercenary Keyboard Warrior ? Did I misinterpret what you meant?

 

[ANDREW GREEN]

So those four women aren't involved in this case. Again I might be wrong but I seem to recall that the women involved in the Romanian case have denied they were victims. But the Romanian authorities believe there is still enough evidence to prosecute them. I'm not sure if there are other women in the Romanian case who still assert they are victims.

No that's wrong, it's Tate's line but it's false, they have victims who are pressing charges. Although it isn't the other women who said they were raped by Tate, where Tate was also arrested for rape. That's why he moved to Romania, because he thought he could get away with his sex crimes there

This is quite a good breakdown of some of the evidence against the Tate's and he's pretty much admitted on camera 10,000 times to all the charges he's guilty of.

Andrew Tate and Tucker Carlson's Lies EXPOSED | David Wood & Apostate Prophet

Tucker Carlson recently traveled to Romania to interview Andrew Tate. During this interview, Andrew Tate told lie after lie about his actions and the investi...

www.youtube.com

 

[ANDREW GREEN]

The women that are being used as evidence by the police have consistently said they aren't victims.

No they haven't, that's a lie

 

[GGizmo]

No they haven't, that's a lie

Don't just say that without evidence.

That is the narrative that as been there from the start. I am open to changing my mind if you have evidence that contradicts it?

 

[Tony Edwards]

Don't just say that without evidence.

That is the narrative that as been there from the start. I am open to changing my mind if you have evidence that contradicts it?

Where is your evidence to disaprove something in the first place?

 

[ANDREW GREEN]

Don't just say that without evidence.

That is the narrative that as been there from the start. I am open to changing my mind if you have evidence that contradicts it?

I've posted a 2 hour video of evidence if you care to watch it. I've now time stamped the first witness complaint from Romania. This is a transcipt of her helping another victim escape from the Tate's. The next part which follows on, shows evidence of threats of violence towards the girls.

Andrew Tate and Tucker Carlson's Lies EXPOSED | David Wood & Apostate Prophet

Tucker Carlson recently traveled to Romania to interview Andrew Tate. During this interview, Andrew Tate told lie after lie about his actions and the investi...

www.youtube.com

 

[GGizmo]

Where is your evidence to disaprove something in the first place?

2 women close to Andrew Tate claim they were wrongly named as his victims, and have no issue with him

Two women named Beatrice and Jasmin gave an interview to a Romanian news outlet claiming they were labeled as victims by prosecutors.

www.insider.com

I've posted a 2 hour video of evidence if you care to watch it. I've now time stamped the first witness complaint from Romania. This is a transcipt of her helping another victim escape from the Tate's. The next part which follows on, shows evidence of threats of violence towards the girls.

Andrew Tate and Tucker Carlson's Lies EXPOSED | David Wood & Apostate Prophet

Tucker Carlson recently traveled to Romania to interview Andrew Tate. During this interview, Andrew Tate told lie after lie about his actions and the investi...

www.youtube.com

I'll give the video a watch. I don't usually read much of the thread as I'm waiting to see how the court case goes.

Tate is obviously up to no good. There is a lot to condemned by his own words. The fact he won't distance himself from his webcam business says a lot.

He seems addicted to money.

There is a difference between claiming to be religious, and actually living religiously. Actions speak louder than words etc.

I re-read my reply to you earlier. I apologise if it came across as aggressive. I sometimes type overly direct.