Tate Brothers - Round 2

[ANDREW GREEN]

It's interesting how Tate divides opinion so much.

The guy is shady. But he's hardly the devil.

I don't know why a lot of men take a submissive approach to him. It seems to be mostly men either fawning over him (I've noticed this from videos other males post about him on Youtube), or its guys having a hissy fit about him.

The main bad thing about this whole situation is the Romanian law enforcement seems to be all over the place. I suspect whether he is eventually jailed or set free will leave a number of legal loopholes that people will be continue to be debating after the judgement as been done.

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you don't know what he does. He coerces and manipulates women to do pornography and then threatens them with violences and beats them if they don't do the pornography that he demands they do. He doesn't allow them to leave the house without either him, his brother or one of his 'bottom bitches' using his own Pimping description. These are women that help him coerce young women to do pornography. These women named 'bottom bitches' also threatened the women with violence if they didn't perform porography,

He has then sold courses online to teach other men who to pimp young teenage girls using the same methods. He calls it a PHD, which he says is his Pimping Hoes Degree. Pimping has been illegal for a long time.

He also has numerous accusations of rape.

 

[Roar87]

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you don't know what he does. He coerces and manipulates women to do pornography and then threatens them with violences and beats them if they don't do the pornography that he demands they do. He doesn't allow them to leave the house without either him, his brother or one of his 'bottom bitches' using his own Pimping description. These are women that help him coerce young women to do pornography. These women named 'bottom bitches' also threatened the women with violence if they didn't perform porography,

He has then sold courses online to teach other men who to pimp young teenage girls using the same methods. He calls it a PHD, which he says is his Pimping Hoes Degree. Pimping has been illegal for a long time.

He also has numerous accusations of rape.

What are you basing all this on? Can you show us the evidence, because the Romanian Police would surely be interested given they've found nothing of the sort? Is it possible you're just an angry male feminist?

 

[Chris Wilson]

The Romanian Judge oratating 'Guilty on all counts' is good enough for me.

Thanks for sharing your prejudices, not that I was wondering where they may lie

BTW it's orating... I'm sure the implied pomposity of the word will not be wasted on some judge from a dump like Romania, and he she or it will milk the limelight mercilessly .

 

[GGizmo]

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you don't know what he does. He coerces and manipulates women to do pornography and then threatens them with violences and beats them if they don't do the pornography that he demands they do. He doesn't allow them to leave the house without either him, his brother or one of his 'bottom bitches' using his own Pimping description. These are women that help him coerce young women to do pornography. These women named 'bottom bitches' also threatened the women with violence if they didn't perform porography,

He has then sold courses online to teach other men who to pimp young teenage girls using the same methods. He calls it a PHD, which he says is his Pimping Hoes Degree. Pimping has been illegal for a long time.

He also has numerous accusations of rape.

That is the media narrative. None of us fully know for a fact what went on in private. We won't know until the court case starts.

I have my objections to his webcam business, and his general attitude. But until I see or hear clear evidence of illegal activity I'm not going to condemn him for a crime.

 

[ANDREW GREEN]

What are you basing all this on? Can you show us the evidence, because the Romanian Police would surely be interested given they've found nothing of the sort? Is it possible you're just an angry male feminist?

I've shown you evidence of all of this in the past and it's all in the Romanian case file. And you always ignore all the evidence probably because you have fun trolling.

 

[Chris Wilson]

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you don't know what he does. He coerces and manipulates women to do pornography and then threatens them with violences and beats them if they don't do the pornography that he demands they do. He doesn't allow them to leave the house without either him, his brother or one of his 'bottom bitches' using his own Pimping description. These are women that help him coerce young women to do pornography. These women named 'bottom bitches' also threatened the women with violence if they didn't perform porography,

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Virginia Giuffre did exactly the same, allegedly travelling the USA to look for morally bankrupt girls to join her in entertaining wealthy men for her sugar daddy's and his friend's delectation, and her alleged financial enhancement. I have not seen you jump on that particular bandwagon. Quite the opposite in fact... Women pure pure, men bad, `specially orange men <LOL>

 

[ANDREW GREEN]

That is the media narrative. None of us fully know for a fact what went on in private. We won't know until the court case starts.

I have my objections to his webcam business, and his general attitude. But until I see or hear clear evidence of illegal activity I'm not going to condemn him for a crime.

By 'media narrative' I take it you mean the Romanian case charges that have been released to the public and Andrew Tate admitting to everything he's accused of on camera.

It's absolutely insane you have people like you saying 'until I see clear evidence' and 'media narrative', when he's literally on camera telling everyone how he commits his crimes publically. He's publically admitted to everything he's accused of because he thinks it makes him look big and clever.

 

[ANDREW GREEN]

Virginia Giuffre did exactly the same, allegedly travelling the USA to look for morally bankrupt girls to join her in entertaining wealthy men for her sugar daddy's and his friend's delectation, and her alleged financial enhancement. I have not seen you jump on that particular bandwagon. Quite the opposite in fact... Women pure pure, men bad, `specially orange men <LOL>

I think people who helped Epstein should be charged too. If someone did that and got away with it, then it's an injustice.

Although I tend to think Epstein isn't as bad as Tate overall, despite them both being criminals. They both trafficked teenage girls, but Epstein would have given them way better financial compensation. Where as Tate ****** them over on the money end

 

[Begbie]

I think people who helped Epstein should be charged too. If someone did that and got away with it, then it's an injustice.

Although I tend to think Epstein isn't as bad as Tate overall, despite them both being criminals. They both trafficked teenage girls, but Epstein would have given them way better financial compensation. Where as Tate ****** them over on the money end

This can't be real?

Tate is worse than epstien? One a convicted criminal and one innocent (so far).

 

[Roar87]

By 'media narrative' I take it you mean the Romanian case charges that have been released to the public and Andrew Tate admitting to everything he's accused of on camera.

It's absolutely insane you have people like you saying 'until I see clear evidence' and 'media narrative', when he's literally on camera telling everyone how he commits his crimes publically. He's publically admitted to everything he's accused of because he thinks it makes him look big and clever.

How do you mentally get around the fact that they took him off house arrest? Surely if the Judge had seen the case file and it was everything you imagine it to be then they wouldn't have let him leave his house?

 

[jigger]

How do you mentally get around the fact that they took him off house arrest? Surely if the Judge had seen the case file and it was everything you imagine it to be then they wouldn't have let him leave his house?

Depends on Romanian law? Maybe the judge is compelled to lift the warrant.

 

[ANDREW GREEN]

This can't be real?

Tate is worse than epstien? One a convicted criminal and one innocent (so far).

You do realise Epstein wasn't a convicted criminal for a long time while commiting crimes? (While also commiting loads of sex crimes)

 

[Chris Wilson]

I think people who helped Epstein should be charged too. If someone did that and got away with it, then it's an injustice.

Although I tend to think Epstein isn't as bad as Tate overall, despite them both being criminals. They both trafficked teenage girls, but Epstein would have given them way better financial compensation. Where as Tate ****** them over on the money end

Ahh, I see your morality quotient is financially led, not ethically. Good to see you making this clear. Thank you.

 

[ANDREW GREEN]

How do you mentally get around the fact that they took him off house arrest? Surely if the Judge had seen the case file and it was everything you imagine it to be then they wouldn't have let him leave his house?

House arrest or not is irrelevant to the level of assumed guilt

 

[Roar87]

Depends on Romanian law? Maybe the judge is compelled to lift the warrant.

I don't think even in Romania they would let a man that has committed the type of crimes Andrew Green suggests walk around terrorising the locals and potentially raping more women.

 

[GGizmo]

By 'media narrative' I take it you mean the Romanian case charges that have been released to the public and Andrew Tate admitting to everything he's accused of on camera.

It's absolutely insane you have people like you saying 'until I see clear evidence' and 'media narrative', when he's literally on camera telling everyone how he commits his crimes publically. He's publically admitted to everything he's accused of because he thinks it makes him look big and clever.

It's insane people like you can't keep your emotions in check until legal system takes its course.

I'm not saying he's innocent. I'm saying lets see the evidence in a court of law before making a fix opinion about it.

I don't know why you get hysterical about the case. Yes, the guy as lied about things and passed them off later as a joke. His personality is like marmite. But unless you've had personal experience of him why are you getting so worked up about the subject?

 

[ANDREW GREEN]

Ahh, I see your morality quotient is financially led, not ethically. Good to see you making this clear. Thank you.

To an extent yes, you, me and everyone cares about their financial situation. But that aside Epstein didn't actually beat up women, but Tate did

In what way do you think Tate is ethically better than Epstein out of interest. This is the point you either good us a good laugh or run away into your cave

 

[Chris Wilson]

I don't think even in Romania they would let a man that has committed the type of crimes Andrew Green suggests walk around terrorising the locals and potentially raping more women.

I think the authorities were more than happy to see those sort off over here some time ago Probably currently showing their expertise here at ultra thin Tarmacadam and pickpocketing if not moved onwards to more elevated crimes.

 

[Chris Wilson]

To an extent yes, you, me and everyone cares about their financial situation. But that aside Epstein didn't actually beat up women, but Tate did

In what way do you think Tate is ethically better than Epstein out of interest. This is the point you either good us a good laugh or run away into your cave

I have no qualms with Epstein, the Tates or even Weinstein, I personally consider all have been vilified with no real concern about the morality and long term goals of those who claimed whatever against them, often after many years and after their youthful beauty, employment potential and previous financial well being had departed them.

 

[ANDREW GREEN]

It's insane people like you can't keep your emotions in check until legal system takes its course.

I'm not saying he's innocent. I'm saying lets see the evidence in a court of law before making a fix opinion about it.

I don't know why you get hysterical about the case. Yes, the guy as lied about things and passed them off later as a joke. His personality is like marmite. But unless you've had personal experience of him why are you getting so worked up about the subject?

The evidence is out there and he's admitted it all on camera, the legal case has been disclosed. Yet for whatever reason you ignore it all and apologise for him.

You state I'm being 'hysterical' that I'm teaching you about the facts of the case and you state it's personal if I believe that. I think it's probably more personal to your own prejudices if you actually believe what you say.

For whatever reason you seem to have a great deal of sympathy for someone who's commited rape and sex trafficking. Perhaps you believe that's all acceptable behaviour, but most of us won't agree with you on that

As for getting worked up the subject. I'm personally against rape and sex trafficking. I take it you are not