Team Group Dark Pro "8 Pack Edition" 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-25600C14 3200MHz Dual Channel Kit - Black

smogsy · 3 Jan 2019 at 07:58

Illuminist said:
Hello,
I have this exact same problem with the same ram, NOTHING i could do would make it run at 3200mhz, i have many posts on here and the Ryzen owners thread about it.
In the end you will see in my sig I settled on staying at 3000mhz but substantially reducing the timings to 12.12.12.32.46 @1.4v (it will not run without error at 1.35v @kitfit1 )
It runs without error but i settled on 13.13.13.32.46 just to be safe
I was hoping the latest motherboard bios to 1.0.0.6 agesa would help finally run it at 3200mhz but it will not, I reached out to 8 pack, i tried all sorts of settings on the ram calculator. i tried 1.45 1.5v nothing worked, so if you do manage it please let me know

i tried 14-14-14-36 @ 3133Mhz, 400% stable will do more testing soon, but undervolting my chip atm

Illuminist · 3 Jan 2019 at 09:27

smogsy said:
i tried 14-14-14-36 @ 3133Mhz, 400% stable will do more testing soon, but undervolting my chip atm

Undervolting the cpu itself?
Just read all 35 pages of your man cave post, excellent work ! What's it looking like now? It hasn't been updated for a year on there.

smogsy · 3 Jan 2019 at 12:24

Illuminist said:
Undervolting the cpu itself?
Just read all 35 pages of your man cave post, excellent work ! What's it looking like now? It hasn't been updated for a year on there.

yeh down to -0.04500 voltage on cpu with PBO ON

Illuminist · 3 Jan 2019 at 12:34

smogsy said:
yeh down to -0.04500 voltage on cpu with PBO ON

I see, and the man cave?

smogsy · 4 Jan 2019 at 09:59

Illuminist said:
I see, and the man cave?

oh, i moved house sold it as part of the house

subroutine · 4 Jan 2019 at 17:22

I can either run this stable at stock 3200 14,14,14,14,31 @ 1.38v, soc 1.02v or 3466 16,16,16,16,36 @ 1.4v, soc 1.05v. I'm not bothered about benchmark scores unless there's one that will answer the following so which is likely to perform the best in games/oculus.

DarkHorizon472 · 4 Jan 2019 at 17:43

Worth trying DOCP, changing divider to 3333 and 1.4v. This worked fine for me with 2 x 8GB , giving me 3333c14. It does depend on how good the IMC is on your CPU.

subroutine · 4 Jan 2019 at 18:36

Thanks, I'll give that a try.

subroutine · 5 Jan 2019 at 14:25

DarkHorizon472 said:
Worth trying DOCP, changing divider to 3333 and 1.4v. This worked fine for me with 2 x 8GB , giving me 3333c14. It does depend on how good the IMC is on your CPU.

This is stable but it requires 1.45v, soc @ 1.1v. @8 Pack Is it ok to run 1.45v 24/7 ?

Illuminist · 5 Jan 2019 at 14:48

subroutine said:
I can either run this stable at stock 3200 14,14,14,14,31 @ 1.38v, soc 1.02v or 3466 16,16,16,16,36 @ 1.4v, soc 1.05v. I'm not bothered about benchmark scores unless there's one that will answer the following so which is likely to perform the best in games/oculus.

Probably work out about the same speed as each other

subroutine · 5 Jan 2019 at 17:19

Thanks. I thought 3333 was stable but after 8 hours/1300% of HCI, my system had a single error. How long/what percentage do you run HCI before the memory is considered stable ?

tagomago · 7 Jan 2019 at 06:26

Hi!

I have a Team Group Dark PRO DDR4 PC4-25600C14 3200MHZ 2x8GB RAM currently in my build with a Ryzen 2700x and AsRock x470 Master SLI/AC. It runs perfectly fine with the default XMP profile at 3200MHz and stock timings. I ordered a separate pair of the same RAM, to upgrade it to 32GB.

However, I get constant freezes on my system. Running memtest on both the sets of RAM individually, didn't throw up any errors. Only when I populate the 4 DIMM as a 4x8GB, do I get memory errors. This is with the XMP set at 3200MHz. I see that [mention]8 Pack[/mention] 8 Pack has this 4x8GB up an running on a few motherboards. I have also updated the BIOS to the latest, which is based on the AGESA 1.0.0.6.

Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks!

Nickolp1974 · 7 Jan 2019 at 06:44

subroutine said:
Thanks. I thought 3333 was stable but after 8 hours/1300% of HCI, my system had a single error. How long/what percentage do you run HCI before the memory is considered stable ?

Any error on memory could potentially crash a system or of course cause instability so really you don't want any. Tbh the best prog for memory testing is this https://www.karhusoftware.com/ramtest/ picks up errors incredibly quick and you only have tk open one instance.

Nickolp1974 · 7 Jan 2019 at 06:47

tagomago said:
Hi!

I have a Team Group Dark PRO DDR4 PC4-25600C14 3200MHZ 2x8GB RAM currently in my build with a Ryzen 2700x and AsRock x470 Master SLI/AC. It runs perfectly fine with the default XMP profile at 3200MHz and stock timings. I ordered a separate pair of the same RAM, to upgrade it to 32GB.

However, I get constant freezes on my system. Running memtest on both the sets of RAM individually, didn't throw up any errors. Only when I populate the 4 DIMM as a 4x8GB, do I get memory errors. This is with the XMP set at 3200MHz. I see that [mention]8 Pack[/mention] 8 Pack has this 4x8GB up an running on a few motherboards. I have also updated the BIOS to the latest, which is based on the AGESA 1.0.0.6.

Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks!

Usually if your populating all dimms slots you need to give the memory controller a helping hand and boost the voltage. Not familiar with ryzen so not sure what that is, on Intel it's SA/IO and you need the equivalent.

tagomago · 7 Jan 2019 at 11:42

Nickolp1974 said:
Usually if your populating all dimms slots you need to give the memory controller a helping hand and boost the voltage. Not familiar with ryzen so not sure what that is, on Intel it's SA/IO and you need the equivalent.

Thank you for the reply. I had set it to 1.4V, with the appropriate bump in the controller voltage to 0.7V, set automatically by the BIOS. I still encountered the same issue.

DarkHorizon472 · 7 Jan 2019 at 13:15

tagomago said:
Hi!

I have a Team Group Dark PRO DDR4 PC4-25600C14 3200MHZ 2x8GB RAM currently in my build with a Ryzen 2700x and AsRock x470 Master SLI/AC. It runs perfectly fine with the default XMP profile at 3200MHz and stock timings. I ordered a separate pair of the same RAM, to upgrade it to 32GB.

However, I get constant freezes on my system. Running memtest on both the sets of RAM individually, didn't throw up any errors. Only when I populate the 4 DIMM as a 4x8GB, do I get memory errors. This is with the XMP set at 3200MHz. I see that [mention]8 Pack[/mention] 8 Pack has this 4x8GB up an running on a few motherboards. I have also updated the BIOS to the latest, which is based on the AGESA 1.0.0.6.

Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks!

In my case moving from 2 x 8gb to 4 x 8gb I needed to up the cpu voltage slightly to be stable again.

tagomago · 7 Jan 2019 at 13:26

DarkHorizon472 said:
In my case moving from 2 x 8gb to 4 x 8gb I needed to up the cpu voltage slightly to be stable again.

Thanks! I haven't tried that. Would you be able to let me know what other changes you made with it's values (if you remember), so that I can follow them and have a ballpark in mind? I have never played around with the voltage/timings before, hence, I am a bit afraid to not mess it up, with improper settings.

DarkHorizon472 · 7 Jan 2019 at 18:03

tagomago said:
Thanks! I haven't tried that. Would you be able to let me know what other changes you made with it's values (if you remember), so that I can follow them and have a ballpark in mind? I have never played around with the voltage/timings before, hence, I am a bit afraid to not mess it up, with improper settings.

Yes sure, my RAM is on 1.4v (it was running at 3333c14 for 2 x 8GB) , SOC is on auto which is about 1.13v I think, CPU voltage was on 1.2v but I upped it to 1.25v (it may be fine at a lower value). The RAM is just on DOCP and runs at default 3200c14.

tagomago · 8 Jan 2019 at 01:30

DarkHorizon472 said:
Yes sure, my RAM is on 1.4v (it was running at 3333c14 for 2 x 8GB) , SOC is on auto which is about 1.13v I think, CPU voltage was on 1.2v but I upped it to 1.25v (it may be fine at a lower value). The RAM is just on DOCP and runs at default 3200c14.

Perfect! I set the CPU configuration to manual and set the Voltage to 1.25V and it works. Basic tests on the Windows Memory Diagnostic threw up no errors. I'll do detailed testing later. Thank you so much!

DarkHorizon472 · 8 Jan 2019 at 07:35

tagomago said:
Perfect! I set the CPU configuration to manual and set the Voltage to 1.25V and it works. Basic tests on the Windows Memory Diagnostic threw up no errors. I'll do detailed testing later. Thank you so much!

Glad it’s working