Tearing down statues

Caracus2k said:
Do you get paid to post such mind bending drooling nonsense?

A statute of a man on a plinth in and of itself isn't any sort of crime in the UK.

You cant just go around commiting crimes because in animate objects offend your pathetic sensibilities.


Stop reading garbage blogs and cite some actual legal authority as to how any of what you have just typed isn't total risible idiocy.
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Hey look, it's Caracus!!

Don't worry about me, you should go back to jumping at shadows that may be hiding those darned Communists you fear so much.
 
Caracus2k said:
Do you get paid to post such mind bending drooling nonsense?

A statute of a man on a plinth in and of itself isn't any sort of crime in the UK.

You cant just go around commiting crimes because in animate objects offend your pathetic sensibilities.


Stop reading garbage blogs and cite some actual legal authority as to how any of what you have just typed isn't total risible idiocy.
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And yet they were found not guilty

So guess you were wrong?
 
Caracus2k said:
Do you get paid to post such mind bending drooling nonsense?


Stop reading garbage blogs and cite some actual legal authority as to how any of what you have just typed isn't total risible idiocy.
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harsh. I don’t think it was mind bending drooling nonsense actually.

The problem you, and that poster have and that we ALL have is this: we do not have copies of the defence case statements. We therefore are not really in a position to properly comment upon the actual defences. Or Legal arguments as we don’t have copies of any skeletons.
 
Tony Edwards said:
The slave trade was never seen as a good idea for society.
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And yet they were celebrated with statues.

In the Colston situation he was giving out money to fund schools and the churches around Bristol. If society frowned on it they wouldn't have accepted the money.

The slavers were paid off by their governments instead of being locked up.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compensated_emancipation

The society view back then was that there was nothing wrong with slavery. It is that view that needs combatting more than having a knee jerk reaction to a statue of someone who makes people feel uncomfortable. It should make people today feel uncomfortable, that is the point of it being left there and making sure people are educated about it.

I think a wider question to ask is how did societies, countries, around the world think that enslaving other people was an ok idea? Slavery still goes on today. The opinion never died. That's why it needs constant education to show it is a path we don't want to go down again.
 
Pudney said:
Hey look, it's Caracus!!

Don't worry about me, you should go back to jumping at shadows that may be hiding those darned Communists you fear so much.
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Ill take that as a tacit admission that you don't actually have any sources to support your assertions of there being a legal defence as you claimed.
 
BowdonUK said:
The society view back then was that there was nothing wrong with slavery. It is that view that needs combatting more than having a knee jerk reaction to a statue of someone who makes people feel uncomfortable. It should make people today feel uncomfortable, that is the point of it being left there and making sure people are educated about it.

I think a wider question to ask is how did societies, countries, around the world think that enslaving other people was an ok idea? Slavery still goes on today. The opinion never died. That's why it needs constant education to show it is a path we don't want to go down again.
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You have mistaken the laws made for the benefit of the rich land owners and society.
 
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BowdonUK said:
And yet they were celebrated with statues.

In the Colston situation he was giving out money to fund schools and the churches around Bristol. If society frowned on it they wouldn't have accepted the money.

The slavers were paid off by their governments instead of being locked up.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compensated_emancipation

The society view back then was that there was nothing wrong with slavery. It is that view that needs combatting more than having a knee jerk reaction to a statue of someone who makes people feel uncomfortable. It should make people today feel uncomfortable, that is the point of it being left there and making sure people are educated about it.

I think a wider question to ask is how did societies, countries, around the world think that enslaving other people was an ok idea? Slavery still goes on today. The opinion never died. That's why it needs constant education to show it is a path we don't want to go down again.
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The trouble is today everything is based on emotion. On feels.

It wasn't very long ago some minor celebrity said that history was racist, which sparked various protests against "white history" being taught and "black history" being brushed over. And since then we've seen the rise and rise of race baiters; stirrers; people wanting to spark conflict. Preaching things like all white people should feel guilt; all black people face racism in every interaction and every institution; violence is justified against "racists" and "fascists" (terms they define themselves) ... etc.

Now, I have read (elsewhere) that the sentiment against Colston in Bristol - which still isn't unanimous - is quite a recent development, stirred up by agitators. That not so long ago, Colston was a popular figure and the people of Bristol were quite proud of his achievements.

Of course you can't say that today, because you aren't allowed to portray Colston as anything other than a slaver/murderer. You literally can't list his achievements without somebody calling you a slaver sympathiser.

And yet, despite all of this, I have no issues with his statue being removed - democratically and via lawful means. If that truly is the will of Bristolians (and not just the stirrers/race baiters).
 
Caracus2k said:
Ill take that as a tacit admission that you don't actually have any sources to support your assertions of there being a legal defence as you claimed.
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No, take it as an admission of my derision for you as a person and my refusal to engage with you.
 
Tony Edwards said:
You have mistaken the laws made for the benefit of the rich land owners and society.
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So people are so partisan and/or lacking in cognitive skills that they think these defendants being found not guilty via jury nullification is a blow for the 'rich'

Rhian Graham, Milo Ponsford, Sage Willoughby and Jake Skuse were found not guilty of criminal damage
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A bunch of white middle class degenerate layabouts....

Strange that the BLM movement seems so heavily populated by degenerate whites..

Almost as if they are using it as cover for their own criminality....

Like what's the chances that Rittenhouse has to shoot a paedophile, a domestic abuser and a convicted felon (all white) when they threatened and or attacked him in Kenosha?
 
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mattyfez said:
Tell that to a jury of your peers :D
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Juries can and do return perverse verdicts.

It's one of the primary weaknesses of the jury system. A district judge in a magistrate court who returned such a verdict would not be a District Judge for much longer.

(For they would actually have to provide an explanation for their verdict)
 
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