Tell me about: VW Golf 90 TDi, Mk4

iaind · 28 Oct 2009 at 17:54

rover416i said:
30mpg is killing me at the moment.

Lol, really? 30mpg is fine!

How many miles are you doing?

Edit, ah - 25k per year. So, lets assume you get the Golf and do 20k in it and 5k in your weekend rover.

25k in the Rover will cost you £3860 @ 101.9p
20k in the Golf will cost you £1907 (assuming 50mpg and 104.9p) and 5k in the rover will cost you £772, total of £2679.

So total saving of £1001 (£83 per month). Lets assume it costs £70 per month to run the Golf (tax, insurance, MOTs, servicing, repairs, tyres etc etc), your total monthly saving is £13 (£83 total fuel saving - cost to run the Golf).

5 Years to break even.

InvaderGIR · 28 Oct 2009 at 17:56

30MPG?

I was getting 28MPG at 'best' in the BMW...19MPG was the 'worst' I got over a tank.

30MPG is great to be honest, I wasn't on a great wage but could afford loads of fuel and all of the stuff you said you can't do due to fuel. :/

paradigm · 28 Oct 2009 at 17:56

rover416i said:
Fair enough, I'd ideally like something that's a mix of two - the Ti does everything I want, but 30mpg is killing me at the moment.

30MPG is killing you? Thought about a bus pass?

rover416i said:
Living at home on my wage I should be able to go out, buy pretty much whatever I want, see mates etc, but I always end up broke at the end of the month - I spend about 33% of my wages on fuel alone.

Sounds like you actually need to stop living beyond your means, rather than trying to find elaborate ways around them. If you can't afford to run a Rover 620ti day to day, and be able to afford basic socialising, then you need to re-assess your spending. I'd suggest that the 620ti needs to go, replaced with something cheap and uber-economical (106 diesel?). Either that or get a better paid job.

rover416i said:
Looking online, the Golf in question seems to average about 55mpg, near enough halfing my fuel costs. It's just a case of how horifically slow it would be in comparison, which I'm guessing will be very, very different

But then two lots of insurance, tax, consumables, servicing... Yes, your fuel costs for 5 of 7 days a week will be lowered, but the offset after all the extra outgoings will be a pittance.

Spuderoony · 28 Oct 2009 at 18:01

Yeah, your circumstances really, really don't agree with owning a thirsty car.

I get high 20s/30mpg in the Z4, but despite doing a fair bit over a thousand miles a month, I'm only spending 1/7th of my take home on fuel. 1/3 is madness.

OllyM · 28 Oct 2009 at 18:01

30mpg isn't thirsty really, I'd call 20mpg or less thirsty which is what makes it even more bizarre!

Janesy B · 28 Oct 2009 at 18:02

I think it's time to walk away from Rovers, Rover416i

mattyprice4004 · 28 Oct 2009 at 18:04

OllyM said:
30mpg isn't thirsty really, I'd call 20mpg or less thirsty which is what makes it even more bizarre!

I do 25k a year, combined with the car's love for breaking various bits it gets a bit expensive.

Maybe I'm jumping in too quick, I've driven most run-of-the-mill 'boring' cars and the Ti stands out well as being something better, so I'm sure after a while I'd get fed up of something mundane. The wages I earn aren't too bad as I'm only 20

paradigm · 28 Oct 2009 at 18:05

rover416i said:
I do 25k a year

I've done 17k in the last 4 months, mostly social miles, what's your point?

If you can't afford it, you can't afford it, regardless of what "it" is.

OllyM · 28 Oct 2009 at 18:05

So buy one car that you can actually afford to run then?

A 620ti really isn't anything special in the grand scheme of things, unless you have Rover blinkers on of course.

iaind · 28 Oct 2009 at 18:06

rover416i said:
I do 25k a year, combined with the car's love for breaking various bits it gets a bit expensive.

Maybe I'm jumping in too quick, I've driven most run-of-the-mill 'boring' cars and the Ti stands out well as being something better, so I'm sure after a while I'd get fed up of something mundane. The wages I earn aren't too bad as I'm only 20

I'll just re-iterate, in case you missed it - it will take FIVE YEARS to even make up the purchase price of the Golf, thats before you even start making any saving.

7 years if you remap it

paradigm · 28 Oct 2009 at 18:07

iaind said:
I'll just re-iterate, in case you missed it - it will take FIVE YEARS to even make up the purchase price of the Golf, thats before you even start making any saving.

7 years if you remap it

That is BEFORE taking into account full running costs of both cars too. His insurance is ridiculous from what I remember.

iaind · 28 Oct 2009 at 18:08

paradigm said:
That is BEFORE taking into account full running costs of both cars too. His insurance is ridiculous from what I remember.

Well thats taking into account running the Golf (the basics only), not the Rover though

mattyprice4004 · 28 Oct 2009 at 18:17

Suppose so, I haven't got Rover blinkers on but I know how to fix them, and generally like the cars.

InvaderGIR · 28 Oct 2009 at 18:20

All cars are the same essentially. Once you know how to work on one, others are easy enough to work on too.

iaind · 28 Oct 2009 at 18:21

Sounds like rover blinkers to me

Sell it and buy a Focus 1.6 - reliable, cheap to run and you can have fun in them (albeit not in a straight line)

Howard · 28 Oct 2009 at 18:24

Buy an MX5. Fun and cheap to run. Mind you, I average 30mpg from mine :rolleyes:

I also average 30mpg from my Honda and it doesn't really bother me, and I earn the same as you IIRC

I think it's all about budgeting

iaind · 28 Oct 2009 at 18:25

I was earning about the same when I had my Alfa, which averaged 12mpg (was broken, a bit - think it might have been leaking!)

paradigm · 28 Oct 2009 at 18:26

Howard said:
I think it's all about budgeting

...and not trying to live outside your means.

OllyM · 28 Oct 2009 at 18:27

Or not commuting miles and miles to go places all the time, something which really isn't sustainable.

Duke · 28 Oct 2009 at 18:28

paradigm said:
Lol at Rover 620ti being your "weekend car".

Seriously, why bother?

I was thinking this.