Tevez hands in transfer request

If James Milner/Jolean Lescott/Adebayor are worth £25m to City then Torres has to be worth around £40m to them you'd guess
 
jakeke said:
I've always thought that what City did was a dangerous game, they're attracting players based solely on money, and as soon as a footballer realises he's got enough to last him forever, it must be hard to get fully motivated to play your best. You buy mercenaries and they will act like one. I have sympathy with Tevez if his motivations are honourable (he quits football or at least moves back to his family to play), but still, going on strike is absurd, nobody forced him to sign the contract, and so he should play by the rules. Refusing to play is petulant and childish and since he's being so brash about it, it's surely making Man City's case extremely strong to the courts, what have they done wrong?

Then again, I can see them giving Liverpool £40m for Torres in January so there may be a silver lining
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It was, and still is. This season is essentially one big gamble to get into the CL. We only, unfortunately, have ourselves to blame. The bit where the argument starts to fall a bit flat is if everyone at City were a mercenary after money, they would surely just stay at City, as we can quite clearly pay them more than anyone else. If they're motivated by greed it would be in their nature to stay and get more money, not chalk up 40m in the bank and think "Yup, that's enough, I'm off".

All that aside I do take comfort in the fact there seem to be some people who genuinely want to be here. Want the club to succeed, and can see the potential there with everything we're building.

I don't take comfort in the possibility of a Torres signing in January. I haven't seen a single reason since he cut his hair off why he would replace Tevez (There was the briefest glimpse of a return but it seems to have died off again). Rooney is the same. It's money based on old form they're yet to replicate in the here and now. There is of course an argument to say he may fit into our squad better than Liverpools and his poor scoring is, certainly in part, lack of decent service. But I still wouldn't expect him to rock up in January for 40m and put 15/20 goals onto our tally. Which in replacing Tevez is essentially what we need someone to do.
 
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Adrianr said:
It was, and still is. This season is essentially one big gamble to get into the CL. We only, unfortunately, have ourselves to blame. The bit where the argument starts to fall a bit flat is if everyone at City were a mercenary after money, they would surely just stay at City, as we can quite clearly pay them more than anyone else. If they're motivated by greed it would be in their nature to stay and get more money, not chalk up 40m in the bank and think "Yup, that's enough, I'm off".

All that aside I do take comfort in the fact there seem to be some people who genuinely want to be here. Want the club to succeed, and can see the potential there with everything we're building.

I don't take comfort in the possibility of a Torres signing in January. I haven't seen a single reason since he cut his hair off why he would replace Tevez (There was the briefest glimpse of a return but it seems to have died off again). Rooney is the same. It's money based on old form they're yet to replicate in the here and now. There is of course an argument to say he may fit into our squad better than Liverpools and his poor scoring is, certainly in part, lack of decent service. But I still wouldn't expect him to rock up in January for 40m and put 15/20 goals onto our tally. Which in replacing Tevez is essentially what we need someone to do.
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I would like Torres as fully fit (may be a problem) is immense. In my eyes there is only one player who can join in january and still score the goals but the chances of joining are slim, saying that we got Robinho. That player is 'Jermain Defoe'. Defoe is a top top player and with service from Silva and Johnson etc he will bang the goals in.
 
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Problem is Defoe is in a decent 'team'
 
Adrianr said:
I don't take comfort in the possibility of a Torres signing in January. I haven't seen a single reason since he cut his hair off why he would replace Tevez (There was the briefest glimpse of a return but it seems to have died off again). Rooney is the same. It's money based on old form they're yet to replicate in the here and now. There is of course an argument to say he may fit into our squad better than Liverpools and his poor scoring is, certainly in part, lack of decent service. But I still wouldn't expect him to rock up in January for 40m and put 15/20 goals onto our tally. Which in replacing Tevez is essentially what we need someone to do.
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Torres seems to be a happiness player, kinda like a confidence player but ... more emotional lol.

When hes full of the joys of spring, no player in the EPL manages a better goal/game or goal/shot ratio tbh.
 
Really?
16 in 18 games in Rafa's last season was pretty good for a guy who doesn't give a **** :)
Under Roy though? .. he would probably rather be at Madrid, which is amusing considering he thinks of Madrid like pool fans think of United.
 
Alpherah said:
Torres seems to be a happiness player, kinda like a confidence player but ... more emotional lol.

When hes full of the joys of spring, no player in the EPL manages a better goal/game or goal/shot ratio tbh.
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Not sure I agree with that. Plenty of times in the past I've seen Torres getting ****ed off and moaning at the ref etc then popping up with a couple of goals.

The game at Goodison 2 season's back was a perfect example; he was a moody ****er that day, got booked for discent then popped up with 2 goals in a couple of minutes and had a 3rd wrongly ruled out.
 
I think at City, Torres would really excel. He would be given top service from Silva and Johnson etc similar to what he used to get with Alonso.
I reckon that Mancini will possibly though say to Adebayor you have until Jan to play with Balo show me that your good enough. If they play well then we have no need for anyone unless its at a good price.
 
BaZ87 said:
Not sure I agree with that. Plenty of times in the past I've seen Torres getting ****ed off and moaning at the ref etc then popping up with a couple of goals.

The game at Goodison 2 season's back was a perfect example; he was a moody ****er that day, got booked for discent then popped up with 2 goals in a couple of minutes and had a 3rd wrongly ruled out.
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Moody at the situation, maybe.
Now he just looks like he doesnt want to be playing for LFC, something that was never even a worry in the past.

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Cant see Torres going to City, or any other team in the PL tbh.

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To clarify, its partly down to whats in his book, he makes no secret about how he doesnt really enjoy life in the PL, especially certain defenders who treat him like a kicking toy.
 
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I reckon Torres will go to Italy...only Barcelona/Madrid could afford him in Spain and they really don't need him. Especially with his form suffering.

Inter with Rafa maybe?
 
Shock move to the Bundesliga ?
Could see him fitting in at Bayern pretty well!
The League is fun, its not ruined by, and all about the, money yet and the players all seem pretty relaxed from best i can tell.
 
Jono8 said:
He earns £286,000 a week, tax free. :(

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_city/9280256.stm
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I did say hours a go. :p



Any way the latest from Tevez...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/dec/12/carlos-tevez-manchester-city-transfer


Carlos Tevez's relationship with Manchester City was at the point of no return tonight after he revealed he had wanted to leave since the summer and said his relationship with the club's executives had "broken down and is beyond repair".

Reiterating his determination to leave Eastlands, Tevez insisted he had "no personal issue with the manager, Roberto Mancini", but made it clear he would not change his mind and that it was not a matter of money.

"My feelings have not changed and it is regrettable we have reached this situation but it is something I have felt for some time and have spent many hours thinking this through," he said. "I wanted to leave in the summer, but was convinced to return to the club. Sadly, my feelings have not changed.

"I could have signed an improved contract, offered by the club during this season; however, this decision is not about money. I have made that clear to both the board and the management on several occasions. I hugely resent the management's suggestions that I have been unduly influenced by others. I am disappointed that the management should now see fit to try to portray the situation in another light."

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Tevez, it emerged, had informed the club in August that he wanted to leave only to be talked into waiting until this point, predominantly by Joorabchian.

Since then, he has been offered a new contract that would make him comfortably the best-paid footballer in England, as well as a one-off "sweetener" in excess of £1m, but refused them both, telling associates "he no longer enjoyed going into work in the morning".

His first wish would be to move back to Argentina but, recognising that might be out of the question, he is holding out for Spain, ideally Real Madrid, where he hopes his family will follow. Failing that, he is threatening to quit football altogether. "My relationship with certain executives and individuals at the club has broken down and is now beyond repair," he said, in a thinly veiled reference directed at the chief executive, Garry Cook, and the football administrator, Brian Marwood. "I do not wish to expand on this at this stage. They know, because I have told them. Now I need to clear my head and think because this is an important part of my career."

Tevez thanked Sheikh Mansour for his "understanding and support", saying City's owner had been "very generous with what he has offered to me". But relations between player and club appear to have suffered irreparable damage, City's statement making it clear they feel badly let down. Tevez's unhappiness about his family life is accepted as genuine – "we know he hates being in Manchester", one senior figure admitted – but City's statement talked of "an unfortunate and unwelcome distraction ... in what is turning out to be a very promising season".

The club added: "Roberto and all at the club have shown, and will continue to show, sensitivity to Carlos's personal circumstances, including the issue of his family being based overseas. Indeed, following his suspension [Tevez was banned from the 3-1 win at West Ham United on Saturday] Carlos requested, and was given, special dispensation to take leave overseas."
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I have calmed down now and no longer hate Tevez and want him to rot in the reserves etc :(.
I am now starting to see where he is coming from and would like to thank him for the goals/performances/work that he has put in. I hope for his sake that he can get a move to Boca as City fans will understand that more. If he moves to Madrid etc he will be hated forever :/
 
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