TF2 MvM update (now with co-op mode)

InKursion said:
It depends: why didn't you like vanilla TF2? What do you think you'll like about this?

Vanilla TF2 was 1000x better as an actual team vs team FPS game. It was focused, balanced, refined and had a lot to learn in the higher-end.

F2P TF2 I'd say is 1000x worse when it comes to the actual no-frills team vs team 'core' gaming elements, however there's plenty to do if you're casual and not interested in learning the fine-points of a class or weapon. Plenty of 'fun' game-modes, a much wider variation in maps, lots of weapons and hats and misc items to keep the stamp collector's happy.
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Quite honestly, I cant even remember why I didn't get into it, I might have been more into Dawn of War at the time. But it just didn't grab me enough for me to keep playing, I couldn't tell you the specifics because it was so long ago.

I just figured I would give it a shot as I don't mind playing coop against bots, I enjoy ME3 MP enough and this seems more involving than that.

Downloading it now anyway so I guess I will know soon enough.
 
Spenty said:
I'd say the game is more balanced now actually. Scout was far too weak when the game was vanilla imo. The scattergun was **** and it's rare now you'll ever see a scout using it. Engie was worth playing when the game was vanilla though, now it's difficult to keep a sentry up for longer than a minute.
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^ newb alert. :D
 
Gerard said:
Think you might want to go and examine what exactly was in the orange box :)
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Ah... you mean those games I never played or already had?

Bottom line is, I bought the Orange Box to get TF2 only. Tough boobies I know, and i'm not that bothered considering i've had plenty of hours out of it, paid or not, i'm just saying in return I got a hat for going F2P.

DampCat said:
STOP QUEUEING FOR GAMES, YOU DONT HAVE TO

Yup. Just refine your search by map "mvm_" :) List by people on server, not full, people playing. Boom.
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Nice, thanks.
 
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Why does the game going f2p have any effect on you whatsoever? The only thing I can think of is bitterness that other people get to play a game for free that you paid for. :/
 
H2F Scott said:
Why does the game going f2p have any effect on you whatsoever? The only thing I can think of is bitterness that other people get to play a game for free that you paid for. :/
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Exactly, you've just answered your own question.

That's not bitterness towards the players though, absolutely not.
 
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H2F Scott said:
Why does the game going f2p have any effect on you whatsoever? The only thing I can think of is bitterness that other people get to play a game for free that you paid for. :/
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I don't think anyone cares that the game went F2P. Everyone got their money's worth out of it in the first few years anyway, before F2P. People complain about F2P more because of what it symbolizes: the shift away from TF2 as a competitive team shooter and moving towards Valve's sandbox testing-ground for new whacky company ideas. 'F2P' is just a synecdoche for all that awfulness.
 
Well I've reinstalled after not having played for years. I was interested in checking out the co-op stuff but I'm currently in a queue with an estimated wait time of 17 minutes. Wtf is this?
 
Spenty said:
Nope, played the game since release. InKursion is trolling, nearly every scout uses FaN.

I've did a test where 6 shots of scattergun did less damage than FaN shoot/reload 3 times.
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I'm trolling? Pretty funny. I was one of the top scouts in the entire TFC scene. I played Scout at top-league level for first 2 years of TF2.

The scattergun is the best weapon for Scouts. Learn to play.
 
Proof of playing at top league level for 2 years please. I never believe statements like this from people unless they can back it up.
 
Been in loads of teams, fella. If you knew anything about TFC/TF2 community you'd know the names.

http://etf2l.org/teams/18/

One example, most of the lads went on to play for TCM a season later. 2nd in Div2, Div1 being for professional teams. Have loads of screenshots and captures on my old computer of us beating 4Kings on Badlands and all sorts.

It's a bit silly giving this much justification to the statement that the Scatter Gun is the best. Hardly any scouts use it? Where are you playing? Trade servers?
 
No, I just don't believe what you said. Yeah you might have played competitively but I doubt at the level and duration you said you did.
 
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