*** The 2010 Gym Rats Thread ***

Hey guys!

I've just started my bulk. I'm 19, 60kg and 173cm so yeah, pretty skinny.

This is everything I ate yesterday:

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I know my protein intake should be upped a little but I'm actually a bit shocked at the amount of calories I've had. Should it be less than that?

Thanks in advance. :)

Thats a whooole lot fp carbs!!! 600 plus!

Whats your exercise like? does it warrent you to have 4.5k of calories? if not id lower it abit because most of it will probably turn into fat
 
Ahh my bad, on the scoop it says 50 ml not grams. It's just a basic whey protein powder which I drink with milk. Thanks for your advices, I think I'll go for semi skimmed milk next and add in vegetables to get those quality calories in. I'll give dailyburn a go later, thanks again. :)

My exercises are:

SAME weight for all 3 sets

Workout A:
Squat-3x5
Bench Press-3x5
Deadlift-1x5
2x8 Dips

Workout B:
Squat-3x5
Standing Military Press-3x5
Bent Over Barbell Rows-3x5
2x8 Chinups(palms facing you)

Week 1:
Day 1: Workout A
Day 2: Rest
Day 3: Workout B
Day 4: Rest
Day 5: Workout A
Day 6: Rest
Day 7: Rest

Week 2
Day 1: Workout B
Day 2: Rest
Day 3: Workout A
Day 4: Rest
Day 5: Workout B
Day 6: Rest
Day 7: Rest

Rotate between weeks 1 & 2.

Just done some more research and the recommended calorie intake for this programme is ~3500 cals, so I'll aim for that.
 
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Is this a standard workout plan?

I'd probably take the deadlift from workout A and replace squats in B with it, so you can do more than 1 set which I can't see doing much. Squatting hard every other day isn't fun, but interspersing them with deadlifts should help as it's a slightly different movement.
You can also add in some isolation work to finish off the routine, so for example, on bench days I'll do some cable tricep extensions to finish my arms.
 
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You want at least 10 reps for sets, I would aim for 12! 5 is for toning if that’s the correct word and between 8-12 is for size. 5 is not enough if you what to put on the muscle.

My opinion ofc.
 
You want at least 10 reps for sets, I would aim for 12! 5 is for toning if that’s the correct word and between 8-12 is for size. 5 is not enough if you what to put on the muscle.

My opinion ofc.

No.

Between 4-6 reps providing the load is heavy around 70-80% of 1RM with build strength. With strength comes mass. Direct mass training is anything from 8-12 reps. Anything over 12 generally will be for muscular endurance.

5, provided correct load, can be plenty.

There is no such thing as 'toning'.

Edit: Just seen it's only 3 sets. I'd increase this to 5 personally. Either that or up the reps.
 
No.

Between 4-6 reps providing the load is heavy around 70-80% of 1RM with build strength. With strength comes mass. Direct mass training is anything from 8-12 reps. Anything over 12 generally will be for muscular endurance.

5, provided correct load, can be plenty.

There is no such thing as 'toning'.

Edit: Just seen it's only 3 sets. I'd increase this to 5 personally. Either that or up the reps.


Yes I know thankyou.
 
Yes I know thankyou.

Of course. Explain toning for me please.

Yep this programme is mainly geared towards strenght.

Increase the sets to 5 if you want to see greater gains. You can also play around with tripples etc. Often good to do a week or two deloading so as to give the CNS a bit of a break. That fifth rep should be a real battle, if it's not then add more weight :)

ARRRGGHHH!!!!! :(
:rolleyes:
 
I know my protein intake should be upped a little but I'm actually a bit shocked at the amount of calories I've had. Should it be less than that?

You dont need any more than 3000. infact at your weight 2600/2700 will be enough, I know this because im not much heavier than you and I only take in around that and make progress.

Protein you could have about 150g, that will be plenty as well, the amount your eating is waaaaaay over the mark.

Just done some more research and the recommended calorie intake for this programme is ~3500 cals, so I'll aim for that.

Where did you get that from? :eek::confused:
 
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Hey guys!

I've just started my bulk. I'm 19, 60kg and 173cm so yeah, pretty skinny.

This is everything I ate yesterday:

2we9buu.jpg


I know my protein intake should be upped a little but I'm actually a bit shocked at the amount of calories I've had. Should it be less than that?

Thanks in advance. :)

Dude that diet is awful. Furthermore, what sort of rubbish whey is that? It's got more carbs than protein?! :/

You need more veg, especially green ones. You need more meat/fish. A lot more. Make sure the rice is wild/long grain. Meat = muscle. Why do you think the Greeks and Roman armies were so feared? High protein diets of meat! :D

You're over doing the carbs by a long margin too. Lastly you don't need that many calories. At your weight, and height 2,800cals would be more than enough. Heck even with your crazy growing metabolism at your age (oh I so wish I was young again with my knowledge I have now! :(), you won't need that much food, make sure it's good quality good you're getting in.

Ditch the simple carbs.
Get more complex carbs.
Get more meat and fish.
Get more veg (esp green).
Get more pulses/beans
Get more nuts and seeds.

You can get so many better calories into you than what you've chosen. Keep away from processed foods - easy to work out. :)

Eat a lot of your calories after training.

Take at least 20g of protein with each feed. 6x a day that's a minimum of 120g. Bonzer.

Get a lot of calories in at breakfast - i.e. have a big brekkie.

I'm not sure how insulin sensitive you are so be aware of your body composition when taking in grains - but I think they are a very good source of energy if you respond well to them.

Increase calories gradually when entering a mass building phase. The mistake so many people make is to add to many calories too quickly. Increase by around 300 cals for 7-10 days then up it again until you hit the levels. This will shock your body less and less likely turn it to fat.

Don't forget to drink at least 2-3l of water a day.

Don't forget healthy fats - absolutely vital.

I'm not going to get onto carb cycling etc.. as it's a bit advanced. You just need to sort out your diet. However i will say keep carbs low before bed - and take some protein before bed (preferably slow releasing like cottage cheese for example) however, if you struggle with food, shakes are ok.


For your program you're going to need to hit around 8 reps, and I'd go for 4 to 5 sets of each at least. Though it depends if you're after size or strength of a combo of both. Ah, I see Benny's already provided advice on that.
 
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