*** The 2011 Gym Rats Thread ***

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SkScotchegg said:
You'd be 100% right but I never asked for you advice regarding protein! And when I refused it everyone got defensive because I said that subject is a closed door for me lol, so as it turns out, you're 100% wrong, sorry mate.
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This will be my last post in this argument

I didn't get defensive, I became annoyed at your blatant refusal to listen to anyones advice. Nutrition isn't a small topic and asking advice, which you did, either directly or indirectly, by posting on this forum on your diet, be it protein or not, left yourself open for other comments

If you don't want to hear it, don't ask, and instead go read about it yourself where you don't have to worry about other people trying to help
 
SkScotchegg said:
origionally posted by bennyC:


Benny we've already established there is no problem with my protein consumption, we established that half an hour ago. If your receiving good gains on 150g of protein a day then I'm jealous as I did not! For me 150 is like an amount I would eat to sustain, to just simply spin the wheels.
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Nobody established that, all they established is that you are pumpin out more manure than a dairy farm whilst telling others they are wrong.

You must be a christian. :D


(I kid)
 
I posted items about carbs etc:

here:

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=16900304&postcount=762

Read part 1:

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=16860698&postcount=751

Maybe you might find it helpful, maybe not. GOing by the way you post, you'll probably dismiss it all, spin your take on it, and then preach to everyone else that you're different or you don't want to take advice.

You're a misnomer , you ask for advice, yet refuse to take other bits of advice. Very strange...
 
Origionally posted by Freefaller:
I think you need to calm down matey before your account breaks.

No one is having a go or telling you you're wrong, you've posted bits and people have commented on them. That's how forums work. You're getting worked up over trifling matters.
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lol you think this is me worked up? This is simply me defending myself, if I hadnt replied and smashed up my bedroom that would be me worked up, if I'm replying that means I'm calm lol.

But just to clarify the situation on how I feel right now...I came on to this forum today to ask about carbs, that is all, and now I have 5 people arguing with me about protein for some reason? and one person arguing about something that happened in another thread months ago that I cant really remember anything about?

So yeah, this has all turned out a bit strange really.

But I stick to my guns, people should speak to people how they're in real life, otherwise your just being fake and talking rubbish? wouldnt you all agree?

If we got mad and lost it everytime someone said something, we'd all be fighting all the time, yet I have people tell me stuff all the time in the gym, like for example I'll be doing squats and someone will come over and talk to me, first of all it annoys me that the guy is talking to me, 2nd of all it annoys me that the guy is wasting my time and talking crap and 3rd the guy then trys telling me about nutrition and what I should eat am like wth? go away, and meanwhile I was just stood there getting my breath back to do my next set, LOL!!! crazy stuff man...

my point is, this happens all the time in the gym and it happens on this forum. Everyone thinks they're right and everyone thinks they know best.

I mean look at bennyC for example, did you see what this guy just wrote LOL he wrote "Personally I'd be grateful if somebody took the time to address an underlying problem like that."

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BEST LINE OF THE NIGHT!

OMG, the ordosity of it? I dont even know if thats the right word as you can tell from my writing and spellings my english isnt good lol but seriously, come on, I got to hand it to the guy, this guy has guts to say that, he seriously does, this guy believes in his heart and his soul so much that I'm killing my kidneys! lol he's read everything I've said about me trying stuff out myself, my own personal experience, experimenting with food, and he's totally overwritten all that information and just said "well, tbh mate, your damaging yourself, so you really should listen! LOL

Simply amazes me that he wrote that sentence, that basically sums up this entire discussion, wouldn't you agree?

EDIT: Also, I find it funny that both freefaller and morba both talk as if I am angry, I dont know why you would think this, the only thing I can think is its the volume in which I write haha, but if you look through my prevous post on any subject on this forum over past few years you'll see that I probably type more then anybody else and use more words to explain myself then other people do lol.

I'm not the type of person that writes one sentance answers, you should see the size of text messages I send my friends, they're 12 messages long lol.
 
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No one is arguing... you're getting worked up people because people were curious and interested in your huge amounts of protein intake. At least sit down and gently go through your reasoning with them without flying off the handle. You're very excitable. We have a good rapport on this forum/thread and people look out for one another and help one another - so people were looking out for you and trying to help you. Lashing out to people isn't a nice thing to do and as such people got their backs up and started to feel like they HAD to defend themselves owing to the way you post - you're not very eloquent in your posting style which is undoubtedly why people believe you're being aggressive/defensive with them. However, you just seem to be incredulous towards what people have to say to you. It's a shame, as the guys here are all good intelligent people with a lot of training experience who could and would spend hours trying to help you. Alienating people just pushes people away.

You did/do come across as very aggressive hence my warning to you to calm down. I don't want to moderate these posts on this forum as 99/100 people are well behaved and treat each other with respect.
 
SkScotchegg said:
origionally posted by bennyC:


Benny we've already established there is no problem with my protein consumption, we established that half an hour ago. If your receiving good gains on 150g of protein a day then I'm jealous as I did not! For me 150 is like an amount I would eat to sustain, to just simply spin the wheels.
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You can eat as little or as much protein as you feel you need to. What people here find aggravating is your close mindedness on the topic which is entirely subjective. We quite often share new discoveries, methods, principles or even myths.

For example I like you would eat little and often, 5/6 small well balanced meals. Until about 7/8 weeks ago where I am now giving Intermittent Fasting a go. Originally if somebody had said to me 'oh you fast for 16 hours a day, and eat all your calories in 8 hours' I'd of told them that it wasn't for me. Those were my very first thoughts about a year ago when ben90 I think it was brought it up in the old gymratz thread.

I found I was getting bored or my eating habits and looking for something more effective recently. I went away, did my reading, read up on the science and other peoples accounts and experiences on leangains.com and now here I am making some fantastic progress with IF & HST cycle. Much better progress than if I had continued to be so narrow minded about changing my habits or opening myself up to new things.

Initially where something might not seem suitable or at all logical it's not always the case.

I speak to you as I would any other person in real life. Last post from me.

SkScotchegg said:
I mean look at bennyC for example, did you see what this guy just wrote LOL he wrote "Personally I'd be grateful if somebody took the time to address an underlying problem like that."

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BEST LINE OF THE NIGHT!

OMG, the ordosity of it? I dont even know if thats the right word as you can tell from my writing and spellings my english isnt good lol but seriously, come on, I got to hand it to the guy, this guy has guts to say that, he seriously does, this guy believes in his heart and his soul so much that I'm killing my kidneys! lol he's read everything I've said about me trying stuff out myself, my own personal experience, experimenting with food, and he's totally overwritten all that information and just said "well, tbh mate, your damaging yourself, so you really should listen! LOL

Simply amazes me that he wrote that sentence, that basically sums up this entire discussion, wouldn't you agree?
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What a load of waffle. You really do have some screws loose I'm affraid.
 
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You know after just reading freefallers last reply and bennyc last reply now it feels like people are calming down and not getting as many replies to this thread but its like why did I have to write a thousand words to get through to you guys something so simple?

It's like you all thought wait a second, this guy is crazy, he isnt listening to advice, when it wasnt like that at all, it was actually others that were attacking me not the other way around and I tried to explain many times in simple words that I asked about carbs and not protein yet people kept saying the same thing over and over again that am not listening or taking their advice.

I am quite open to advice if I've asked about carbs I'll listen to everything you have to say about carbs, and yeah maybe if you told me some science behind protein I'd listen to that too but telling me am eating 400g of protein a day when I've been reading for best part of a year and experimented and learn that 350g to 400g works for me then I just didnt understand why I am suddenly wrong or crazy to be doing this.

And obviously you say calm down but when I'm having to reply to 5 different people and repeat myself over and over again obviously your gona get worked up a little bit but I wouldn't say I was mad just a little defensive lol.
 
I got to hand it to the guy, this guy has guts to say that, he seriously does, this guy believes in his heart and his soul so much that I'm killing my kidneys! lol he's read everything I've said about me trying stuff out myself, my own personal experience, experimenting with food, and he's totally overwritten all that information and just said "well, tbh mate, your damaging yourself, so you really should listen! LOL
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Meh, i'm going to start eating poison, after all unless i try it for myself everyone else who tells me that poison will poison and kill me is just talking rubbish right?
 
I guess the best way for you to stick it to everyone on the forum would be to post a full photograph of yourself 1-2 years ago, and one of yourself now, so you can prove that your diet is working.
 
bennyC you say you would speak to me that way in person but I doubt it would have taken an hour in person to settle this, you would have said what you said in about 10 seconds, I would have said "well tbh mate, I'm happy at 400g and it works for me but can you explain to me about carbs" and that would have been that. Would have been a 1 min discussion and wouldnt have been a debate. I doubt you would have argued with me in person and said yeah but your damaging yourself etc after I've just explained that this works for me.
 
Originally posted by skull:
I guess the best way for you to stick it to everyone on the forum would be to post a full photograph of yourself 1-2 years ago, and one of yourself now, so you can prove that your diet is working.
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I've gone from 24 stone to 18.7...lol believe me, I've totally transformed. Not finished yet tho, still got a long way to go, I believe in another 3 years I'll be where I want to be with my body. I've only got some pictures I took recently, I dont have any from past really, apart from pictures from facebook but I got clothes on in them so not very good, although there is a couple where you can tell in my face that I was mega fat back then.
 
Thought I'd bring something interesting in here:

Morba said:
Benny, I read something recently that showed the hormones released across the body are actually minimal and generally have no knock on effect from the bigger compounds.

I didn't read it all and will need to try and find it, but it looked like it might knock what a lot of us think to be true!
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If Morba can sift through all his pr0n bookmarks and find it some of us might find in interesting ;)
 
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