*** The 2015 Gym Rats Thread ***

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She is afraid of exactly what you experienced, hot totty trying to get all up in your junk

Das it mane, she knows sloots are mirin my sweet gainz :cool:

Lol.....wow.

I think my gf has said 'I don't want you looking like Arnold' then in the next sentence said shed like some abs showing...but doesn't want me looking like a powerlifter also....hah. Mind you, I was a skinny wreck when we first met, so I've changed somewhat :p

Just tell them you enjoy doing what you are doing, how someone can be negative towards you trying to be more healthy is beyond me, unless its for another reason I.e you're spending too much time away...

I think it's like you say, most women aren't into the massive Arnie look (even though guys think they are), they just want a guy who's athletic with some abs (the usual comparison is Brad Pitt from Fight Club or David Beckham). The thing they don't get is that doesn't just happen overnight, you have to put on some weight first and it takes time.

I suspect it might be that she feels more secure if I didn't look good. She's very recently taken up jogging at night and it might be because she feels left behind now that I'm making progress. If I didn't exercise then she may not feel the need to.

I'm not stopping now though. After 13 months the difference is noticable and I can't throw all that effort away.

Keep at it man, don't fall into that trap of "I'm married now, no need to bother anymore.". I saw so many grossly obese married men on holiday recently, now way I am ever going to let myself go like that.
 
I'm really struggling to get my head around what/how much food to eat.

I've read the bit that tells you how many calories you need and say +/- 10% or some. But for instance if I was trying to loose weight (a bit) and build muscle and my BMR is 1600 in a day what does that consider?

I mean last night in the space of 1.5 hours I used over 1000 calories and probably a lot more over the next 30 mins, is that 1600 then enough?

Anyone ?
 
I just use this for calculating macros: IIFYM Calculator

Then just use MyFitnessPal to track everything. BTW don't try to lose weight AND build muscle, just focus on one or the other.

Thanks I'll look into those.

As for loosing weight and build muscle.. I think that's the bit that I don't understand. At the moment I would do about 1 hour cycling and or running followed by about 30 mins of weights.

Last night I saw a trainer who gave me a start of a programme so I spent probably 1.5 hrs doing weights (which nearly killed me...) then I did some cycling. Would you suggest doing weights or cardio or mix both ?
 
Thanks I'll look into those.

As for loosing weight and build muscle.. I think that's the bit that I don't understand. At the moment I would do about 1 hour cycling and or running followed by about 30 mins of weights.

Last night I saw a trainer who gave me a start of a programme so I spent probably 1.5 hrs doing weights (which nearly killed me...) then I did some cycling. Would you suggest doing weights or cardio or mix both ?

Basically, to build muscle you need to be in a calorie surplus, and if you are doing a lot of cardio you are going to burn up a lot of calories and you may not have enough left to build muscle. If you are serious about gaining muscle then the general advice is to only do some light cardio of up to 20 minutes. I have also read an article which suggested running is detrimental to muscle gain i.e. it destroys muscle whereas cycling is OK (Article Here).

Also, my personal view is that the majority of personal trainers do not know what they are doing and are only making you do random exercises so you get all sweaty and feel like you got your money's worth (exercising vs training). I've seen a PT in my gym cause a beginner a back injury on bent over rows by making him do too much weight and not telling him how to use proper form. I saw the same PT the other night making 2 guys do deadlifts with straps and alternate grip pulling only 90kg, which is crazy.

If you want to build muscle, then you can use that calculator to calculate how many calories you need to bulk, then do a beginner strength program like:
Stronglifts
Starting Strength
AllPro
Fierce 5

Those are the ones I know of that got a lot of people good results over the years. I also recommend buying the Starting Strength book to learn the Oly lifts and watching videos on Youtube for form (also film yourself to spot mistakes).
 
Basically, to build muscle you need to be in a calorie surplus, and if you are doing a lot of cardio you are going to burn up a lot of calories and you may not have enough left to build muscle. If you are serious about gaining muscle then the general advice is to only do some light cardio of up to 20 minutes. I have also read an article which suggested running is detrimental to muscle gain i.e. it destroys muscle whereas cycling is OK (Article Here).

Also, my personal view is that the majority of personal trainers do not know what they are doing and are only making you do random exercises so you get all sweaty and feel like you got your money's worth (exercising vs training). I've seen a PT in my gym cause a beginner a back injury on bent over rows by making him do too much weight and not telling him how to use proper form. I saw the same PT the other night making 2 guys do deadlifts with straps and alternate grip pulling only 90kg, which is crazy.

If you want to build muscle, then you can use that calculator to calculate how many calories you need to bulk, then do a beginner strength program like:
Stronglifts
Starting Strength
AllPro
Fierce 5

Those are the ones I know of that got a lot of people good results over the years. I also recommend buying the Starting Strength book to learn the Oly lifts and watching videos on Youtube for form (also film yourself to spot mistakes).

Thanks again, it's certainly a lot to get my head around but it's starting to make sense.

Last night I was feeling dizzy at times. It wasn't until I came home and read about breathing that I think I know where I was going wrong (I was pretty much holding my breath) at no stage had that been mentioned though.
 
I have a feeling I know the answer but will ask anyway.....is there an alternative to the deadlift I can do in a 5x5 routine? Only reason is on weights and needing to buy more!
 
Thanks again, it's certainly a lot to get my head around but it's starting to make sense.

Last night I was feeling dizzy at times. It wasn't until I came home and read about breathing that I think I know where I was going wrong (I was pretty much holding my breath) at no stage had that been mentioned though.

During lifts such as squats/deadlifts it's favorable to hold your breath to help increase stability around your back - just make sure you take a big breath beforehand!
 
During lifts such as squats/deadlifts it's favorable to hold your breath to help increase stability around your back - just make sure you take a big breath beforehand!

No, it's favourable to brace your core properly & effectively. Holding your breath is something very different.

Admittedly the strength of the brace is increased while the diaphragm isn't moving as a higher intra-abdominal pressure can be maintained however you shouldn't need to hold your breath to achieve this and if holding your breath is how you go about achieving a brace it points towards not having got the hang of it.
 
Probably going to get murdered for this here given the attitude to personal trainers... but I've just signed up for 10 weeks of PT.

My fitness has come a long way since dropping all the weight and getting down to the gym, but I think I'm starting from such a poor base that I don't have the confidence to begin a StrongLifts program "on my own". I know that I would be able to come here for advice on form and such, but having been such a big guy my mobility is really really lacking. Had a good chat with a specialist PT place which has opened up about 30 yards from my flat, spoke to him about the short term goals of getting into a position where I'll have the confidence and ability to take my training forward on my own, and looks like we are going to start to take things forward.

First session is booked in for the 17th, let the big compounds begin!
 
Thanks I'll look into those.

As for loosing weight and build muscle.. I think that's the bit that I don't understand. At the moment I would do about 1 hour cycling and or running followed by about 30 mins of weights.

Last night I saw a trainer who gave me a start of a programme so I spent probably 1.5 hrs doing weights (which nearly killed me...) then I did some cycling. Would you suggest doing weights or cardio or mix both ?

1) Essentially impossible to lose fat and gain muscle simultaneously.

2) You should not be thinking that cardio = fat loss. Cardio is simply calorie expenditure and some fatigue, which is not a great look if you're trying to build muscle after an hour long recumbent bike slog.


I have a feeling I know the answer but will ask anyway.....is there an alternative to the deadlift I can do in a 5x5 routine? Only reason is on weights and needing to buy more!

No, you would need to change your routine to accessories sufficiently.
 
Did you not know that glutes are, in fact, for the slootes?

The sloots are all about the glutes, this is where the if you touch mine I have to touch yours rule comes in so handy.
I can confirm, I was gloots.

Probably going to get murdered for this here given the attitude to personal trainers... but I've just signed up for 10 weeks of PT.

My fitness has come a long way since dropping all the weight and getting down to the gym, but I think I'm starting from such a poor base that I don't have the confidence to begin a StrongLifts program "on my own". I know that I would be able to come here for advice on form and such, but having been such a big guy my mobility is really really lacking. Had a good chat with a specialist PT place which has opened up about 30 yards from my flat, spoke to him about the short term goals of getting into a position where I'll have the confidence and ability to take my training forward on my own, and looks like we are going to start to take things forward.

First session is booked in for the 17th, let the big compounds begin!
Nothing necessarily wrong with it, just be mindful that your trainer might be terrible. Look up form/techinque yourself.

Also, take responsibility for your mobility.
 
My girlfriend only complains when i start to go a bit too thin. Started BJJ which has a lot of rolling which is amazing for weight loss. She doesn't like the 'rib' look although shes always used to me being circa 17-18stone.

I still have love handles mind.
 
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