The 5 year plan to £50k

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No but you're basically asking what the easiest way to improve your life with no qualifications, to the point of earning double the average wage. As I've said in other threads lots of people will complain about not having something than actually changing.

If you're going to change then great, but trying to tell me I'm trying to put you down when I've given pretty decent advice is a bit wrong, I just want you to actually go out and start working your backside off to get to where you want to be and not just ask for advice or sympathy from a forum.

KaHn

**** KaHn, where did I ask for sympathy? Bloody hell mate, your twisting this to actually try to make me look bad?

I started the thread for advice, yes. What's wrong with that?

Gah, thanks. You've put me in a bad mood now :(
 
The only way you'll get to 50k in 5 years in your position is working for yourself, imo. It's the only job you'll get where nobody will look at your grades, experience or CV, which could quite easily be viewed negatively. It's also not capped in as such as there's no ladder to climb, no waiting for the person above to leave/retire, etc.

In a normal job, you'll be hard pushed. Most people don't even make it to 30k doing the same job for their entire life, and I'm not sure what % of the UK population are on 50k+ but it can't be many.

Edit: 1.68m people are on 50k+ according the Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Income_in_the_United_Kingdom), or 2.6% of the UK population.

This. 50k in 5 years in unrealistic IMO.

Sadly, lots of skilled people out there without the piece of paper to prove it. As a result they simply can't move up.
 
**** KaHn, where did I ask for sympathy? Bloody hell mate, your twisting this to actually try to make me look bad?

I started the thread for advice, yes. What's wrong with that?

Gah, thanks. You've put me in a bad mood now :(

If thats all what it takes to put you in a bad mood offshore is definitely not for you.

KaHn
 
Also why can't you move out if you earn 27k...? If it's that big a deal to you, you might want to adjust your spending :p (because that should be enough to live in a flat share, even in London)
 
I would say offshore best way too. Crying out for instrument techs. Do an instrumentation HNC, basic electrical qualifications.

Work at one of the Fergus plants for a year get Compex etc then money is there.
 
I currently earn 27k doing **** all for the local council (sorry, tax-payers).

£27K? You're earning a sum many would envy. And why are you living with your parents? Go get a bed-sit or share a flat.

As for a career, how good at maths are you? Because actuaries earn a lot of money, and not only do they often prefer those without degrees, but also prefer maturer entrants.

Alternatively, continue in your job and get some management qualifications. Senior council staff earn a lot of money.
 
Look into it courses you can be put onto (via company) that improve your skills? (and thus command higher salary)

The current easy job sounds like it suits you (why not!?) Just try work upwards?

Why the need for more money? Why 50k? Working from the bottom up in a new industry I doubt you'll make that amount. Also could be a case of "the grass is always greener"

1. The current job is a fixed-term contract, and will end in March 2015. Could be extended if we fail to deliver on time (quite likely).

2. The figure of 50k I plucked out of the air as an amount which would let me buy a house, and move out. Average house price being 160k, new govt policy is to limit mortgages to 4x salary. 50k should do it.

Also, no disrespect, but the jobs paying less than say 30k tend not to be very demanding, shall we say. Like delivery drivers or factory workers. I would like to end up doing something that not everybody could just walk in off the street and do.

My current job at 27k for doing literally nothing is a prime example. It's depressing and demoralising.
 
1. The current job is a fixed-term contract, and will end in March 2015. Could be extended if we fail to deliver on time (quite likely).

My current job at 27k for doing literally nothing is a prime example. It's depressing and demoralising.

Fail to deliver and you do nothing........ maybe thats the problem?

KaHn
 
So, imagine you are me. Where do you start? All I'm doing atm is looking on job sites but I don't think this is the smartest way of finding a good paying career. All I'm finding is work I'm not qualified to do.

I don't think trying to pursue something purely for the money is a smart thing to do but if you really wanted to and were motivated then you could probably get to your goal within a year or so. The main area you could look at if you are purely money driven is sales. Without qualifications the two you could specifically look at are becoming a recruitment consultant or an estate agent - its quite feasible to earn well over 50k in either of those fields and neither requires any qualifications. Perhaps IT recruitment might be semi-relevant... the thing is though these sorts of roles can be very stressful for lots of people and you might well find yourself not enjoying the work - you'd have to ask yourself if the money is worth it.

Perhaps look at some sort of professional qualification.. ACCA will pay reasonably well eventually though will take you a few years to get through the exams. Would take less time to qualify as an IFA though again there is a sales aspect to this role - could be a good thing as you'd be able to earn well fairly soon in your career.

Still these are just random suggestions and none of them may be suitable - overall I think its a bad idea to look for a career like this and a much better idea to think about what you'd actually like to do and explore careers related to that - sure you can then look at which options maybe offer better prospects etc... but the main thing is you ought to be enjoying what you chose to pursue. Earning 50k isn't going to make you happy... in fact you could have a pretty ****ty life if you spend the next 30-40 years stressing over some job you hate but which you need to keep to maintain your current lifestyle, mortgage, wife/kids etc..
 
FoxEye, I don't know how else to say this; your attitude stinks. You started off well enough, but stuff like this...

the jobs paying less than say 30k tend not to be very demanding, shall we say. Like delivery drivers or factory workers. I would like to end up doing something that not everybody could just walk in off the street and do.

... is just plain rude. So you want to improve your situation and build a better life for yourself, but only on your terms, is that it? Only if you can do the right kind of job, and it's suitably demanding for you? (But not too hard, right? Am I close?)

A good friend of mine started a business cleaning ovens - just him, driving around in a van. 8 years later he employs three people to work for him, owns two houses and drives a Merc. But oven cleaning is a job "everybody could walk in off the street and do", right? And it's hard. So it's not for you, obviously.

You know how people get where they are? They work hard; they try. They look for opportunities and they take them. Here you are moaning about how you get paid a (pretty decent, frankly) wage, but you have so little work to do that you just sit on a forum all day... and what, you want jobs to fall in your lap?
 
Also you mentioned you've been to uni but dropped out - presumably you did pass some of the modules/acquired some credits. You could look at the OU - you might be able to transfer the credits towards a degree which either has free choice credits or overlaps what you previously studied or you could go for an 'Open' degree...
 
Could you kindly not post anymore in this thread. Thanks. You seem intent on having a go at me. For what reason I have no idea. I can't remember talking to you before.

Same as the poster above, you asked for help, we gave help, then when questioned its become apparent your attitude to working is ridiculous.

Nice thing about this being a forum is you have to take the comments, if you can't take criticism maybe its best you just retreat to the basement you came from?

KaHn
 
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