The absolute state of pubs these days

Pubs have the same struggles as retailers on the high street, high rents and rates. Add to that the price of electricity these days, staff cost more to employ due to changes on minimum wage rates, pension contributions and hikes in employer NI. The big one is pubs don't benefit from economics of scale that chain pubs and supermarkets.
 
I couldn’t believe it, was in a Wetherspoons the other week in Englandshire and it was £7.10 for four pints! If it was that cheap here, nothing would ever get done.

That being said, Wetherspoons is a horrible company. But damn they are cheap (thanks to horrendous wages and terrible supplier treatment).
 
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What do you expect? With the rise of bills etc breweries are struggling and closing too

Pubs have been on the decline for years and will continue to be
 
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I think the bigger problem is young adults not going out so much. I was out almost every night between 18-23. I didn't earn much back then and a pint was around 2 quid, maybe approaching 3 quid in a club so still wasn't cheap relative to my salary. Used to find pound a pint nights fairly regular though.

Kids are all trying to make money on YouTube instead of going out to pubs, is 80% of the problem I think.
 
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I only go to pubs to eat. And very rarely at that.

Hard to find anything that isn't a chain. Can't be bothered with chain pubs as most aren't any better than you can do at home.

There's one non chain one nearby I like. But, alas, it's only for special occasions I go.

Pubs aren't really viable now. There will always be some. But a lot more have to close as yet.
Once enough close that the left overs are nearer full capacity the system will have reached equilibrium. Probably a mix of very nice and very gash pubs catering for a different audiences
 
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Double spiced rum and Coke in my local spoons is £3.40 and the regular bar staff don’t even measure the rum so you’re getting more than a double.

Though the pub down the road from my house charge £6.10 for Madri, Budweiser and Moretti on tap.
 
But supermarket beer specials need to be taxed I agree. But then the industry only had itself to blame brewery's bought out brewerys and everything is made in the same 3 places. They also treat landlords like ****
 
I like how pubs have gone (round here anyway). I don't like guzzling pints any more, I'd rather have one or two 2/3s of a pint glasses of strong IPA or porter (>6%), and get a little buzz on without so much bloat and sugar....but that's cos I'm getting old where you have to manage your digestive system more :P

A couple of 2/3s runs to about £12 at the micro pubs in the village selling decent beer.
 
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I think the bigger problem is young adults not going out so much. I was out almost every night between 18-23. I didn't earn much back then and a pint was around 2 quid, maybe approaching 3 quid in a club so still wasn't cheap relative to my salary. Used to find pound a pint nights fairly regular though.

Kids are all trying to make money on YouTube instead of going out to pubs, is 80% of the problem I think.
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People have just realised that going out drinking every night for 5 years isnt a good idea :cry:
 
Was actually talking about this with a colleague last night who has recently started after being let go from a nearby pub - one of the problems was trying to manage the costs with increasingly hard to predict patterns of demand - one night it would go mental, the next they might have 1-2 customers the whole evening without much rhyme or reason though partly linked to the pandemic, making decisions on staffing tough and managing costs complicated.
 
I bought a round of beers last night at €11.90 for per 500ml beer. High prices will be here to stay, the only question is, what's going to happen to wages. The government thinks we will be happy with lower lower standards compared to slightly higher inflation.
 
Most landlords are literally just trying to keep the lights on. If they could sell pints for £3 they would.

I remember an interview with a landlord on PM before Christmas where the energy bill rises alone meant he needed to generate something like an extra £500 a week to stay open the same hours.
 
One of my ex tenants was a barman and it was horrendous. Constant change in hours at last min, long shifts (12+ hrs a day, often a split shift) making external life impossible.

Always min wage for all staff even if you was duty or shift manager meaning a lot that are 18-20 working there as general the age range is only £6 odd, nowhere near £10. You are only at £9.50 if you 23 or older! Which by time you general moved on tbh.

For hours put in its a horrible industry.
 
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