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mrk said:
It's not really hard to be 4x faster than Norton :p

And it's not free either and costs quite a bit.

MSE will remain.
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I think I'm just a bit more paranoid than the average user. New strains of financial malware variants of zeus, spyeye etc. go undetected for weeks by traditional vendors, including Microsoft. Check out the Malware Research Group site for more information on financial malware.

One of the features I was most impressed with during the SecureAnywhere beta phase was the Identity Protection piece. It generically protects you from keyloggers, screengrabbers etc even if they are unknown to the security community.

Test your MSE versus the zemana keylogger test. Start keylog session and then go to your online banking, email or other secure sites.

Install SecureAnywhere alongside your MSE for testing and then do the same test - you'll be protected.

I'm not aware of any other product that is able to generically protect you from these attacks - even trusteer rapport relies on the malware researchers ripping apart pieces of malware and then pushing out a fix.

Anyway, I'm starting to think Webroot should pay me for this!
 
MSE is based on the same foundation/engine/application and update database as Forefront Endpoint Protection (I deploy and maintain Forefront at work) if memory serves correct.

So I highly doubt MSE would be cause for paranoia, if it did then millions of corporations and institutions all over the world could be at risk :p
 
wjfcomputers said:
Has anyone tested Webroot SecureAnywhere? It just launched today.

Has had some incredible reviews:

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2393678,00.asp#fbid=6KVNvCKakq_
http://www.webroot.com/shared/pdf/Webroot_SecureAnywhere_vs_antivirus_competitors_27Sept2011.pdf
http://www.webroot.com/En_US/land-security-you-wont-hate.html

Incredibly it's just 600Kb and never needs to be updated. Completely different model to traditional AV solutions.

I was a beta tester and highly recommend it.
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80 dollars a year?! :eek: I think I'll stick with Panda cloud for now...
 
mrk said:
corporations and institutions all over the world could be at risk
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Your assumption is incorrect but the piece I have quoted is bang on.

Do some research into financial malware, including reviewing the Malware Research Group's reports and come to your own conclusions.

MSE is a superb product when compared to traditional competitive products, but these products still rely on traditional methods to protect you.

How do you know your machine doesn't have a financial malware rootkit on it right now? All a normal user knows is that MSE says the computer is not infected. What this really means is that Microsoft haven't yet written a signature for the virus that's been sitting on your machine for several weeks.

Once they have written a signature and pushed it to your machine, they'll proudly proclaim that they have detected and remediated the virus. This gives you that warm and fuzzy feeling of protection. What they don't tell you is how long the virus was on your machine and what data it stole etc.

To put it in simpler terms, Webroot protect you from the point of infection, Microsoft protect you from the point of detection.

To help to illustrate my point, go to www.prevx.com and click on the Threats Missed by Other Vendors tab towards the bottom right. Webroot SecureAnywhere is based on Prevx technology and millions of users run Prevx alongside other security products like MSE.

Just yesterday, MSE failed to detect over 1000 different strains of malware on machines that both MSE and Prevx were installed on.

It does seem a bit pricey though. I'm hoping that they'll reward the beta testers with a free license :-)
 
Do you work for Webroot? I just get that vibe... :p

How do you know your machine doesn't have a financial malware rootkit on it right now?
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Because all of these are run once or twice a month alongside MSE and they say my machine(s) are fine:

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And if all those are incorrect or could miss something then there's every bit of a chance Webroot could also miss something at some point.

For home use I'm not going to be buying security software when free ones can do (in combination) the same job as pay for ones. Yes it might require some manual work instead of sitting back and letting the software do its thing but that's fine with me as I like a hands on approach.
 
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I'm just a long-term Prevx user and beta tester ;)

To be honest I think I've done everything I can to help explain why this is a superior product, I encourage you to do some more independent research though.

The good news is HitManPro also uses the Prevx technology so you're half way there :)

Edit: thought I saw HMP in your list, my mistake.
 
I just wanted to add one more point because after reading your last post you're clearly not getting what I'm saying.

It doesn't matter if SecureAnywhere misses a piece of financial malware - it will still generically protect you from it. That is why it is able to protect you at the point of infection, rather than once an update has been pushed out to each of the scanners you listed.

You sound like you're responsible for the IT at the company you work for, so I encourage you to research different types of threats and ways to protect against them. A good place to start is Wilders Security.
 
It looks like a great product but if the price was a one off and offered lifetime updates then I could see that as OK but a yearly subscription at the same cost is certainly not something 99% of people will be saying yes to!

I see the price includes 3 licenses though.

You sound like you're responsible for the IT at the company you work for, so I encourage you to research different types of threats and ways to protect against them. A good place to start is Wilders Security.
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Unfortunately the higher ups are quite strict on what software they sign off for and because the parent company provides us with the MS Volume Licensing agreement we get Forefront as part of what we're paying for. It took them long enough to sign out of the Kaspersky package we were on before I started for one!
 
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mrk said:
It looks like a great product but if the price was a one off and offered lifetime updates then I could see that as OK but a yearly subscription at the same cost is certainly not something 99% of people will be saying yes to!

I see the price includes 3 licenses though.



Unfortunately the higher ups are quite strict on what software they sign off for and because the parent company provides us with the MS Volume Licensing agreement we get Forefront as part of what we're paying for. It took them long enough to sign out of the Kaspersky package we were on before I started for one!
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Don't worry I'm not suggesting that you try to encourage them to spend more money.

I just have a personal problem where I try to force everyone else to be as paranoid as I am ;-)
 
wjfcomputers said:
Don't worry I'm not suggesting that you try to encourage them to spend more money.

I just have a personal problem where I try to force everyone else to be as paranoid as I am ;-)
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Webroot beta letting through several nasty pieces of malware in real-world testing, including a backdoor:


Nothing is perfect, but later in the test it only detected 57% of the stock malware samples as well; one of the lowest results I've seen in languy's tests to date. $80? No thanks. :p
 
Rainmaker said:
Webroot beta letting through several nasty pieces of malware in real-world testing, including a backdoor:


Nothing is perfect, but later in the test it only detected 57% of the stock malware samples as well; one of the lowest results I've seen in languy's tests to date. $80? No thanks. :p
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That video was discussed in-depth over on the Wilders Security forums. It was recording during the beta phase when the connection to the cloud-based behavioural database wasn't even live.

How well do you think MSE would fair against zero-day viruses if it couldn't use any heuristics or signatures? ;)

The results coming out on the live product are very promising indeed, but don't take my word for it, do your own research.

Besides, this is all irrelevent because SecureAnywhere cannot be tested in this way. Even though it may have let those viruses through during the beta stage, the user was protected from any malicious behaviour.

SecureAnywhere (Prevx) protects at the point of infection. MSE protects at the point of detection.
 
Jon123456 said:
My 3 PC Kaspersky license is due to expire in 10 days. Any recommendations on the current bets internet security product and why?
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Try the Webroot SecureAnywhere Antivirus trial at http://www.webroot.com/En_US/consumer-products-secureanywhere-antivirus.html

You get 30 days for free and it downloads and installs in seconds. In fact, because it works so differently you can even run it alongside Kaspersky for testing.

It only launched a couple of days ago and PC Mag awarded it Editors Choice after it protected against 100% of malware for the first time in the magazine's history.
 
Having a dilemma. Used to have KAV 2009/2010 on my three PCs, and sometimes it's too slow to update but overall seems ok. I've heard that 2011/2012 are even worse so want to try elsewhere for my new computer.

Been using MSE and now have a trial of NOD32 on which seems fine, but I've heard mixed reviews.

What would you recommend? I like an AV which leaves me alone and stays quiet in the background, but obviously still protects me.
 
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