The AMD Driver Thread

[Ayahuasca]

The game isn't capped to 60 fps

 

[deuse]

never mind

 

[slick rick]

The game might run well for you with a single card but what about people who run high resolution or high refresh rates, they really do need the power of multi GPU and you cant blame them when they get a little miffed because their expensive cards wont work together to drive their expensive panel.

I agree releasing regular driver updates with issues is as bad as not releasing a driver at all but it is a frustrating situation.

 

[eyetrip]

I like the fact people are bemoaning not rushing a driver out but there is currently a thread where people are talking about Nvidia's latest driver being causing all sorts of problems.

Rushing drivers out with problems is a big issue, for years Nvidia has had drivers for new games, then had like 12 versions within a week for the same damn game, all with various different problems.

I'd prefer a working driver which doesn't break everything and waiting several days. Even more importantly, the driver I've had installed for ages has had no actual issues in any games I can think of. I didn't need to install a new driver and I'm still getting 55-60fps in Witcher 3 with almost everything maxed out... I haven't tried hairworks but presume it would drop fps regardless of a new driver or not.

No, xfire isn't working, but the game is capped at 60fps(thanks to stupid devs) but the game is running great on a single card. Most games xfire works as I expect it to, a few I have to force it for a few days before I get a new driver, so what. Now and then you can force it but get issues... that is how games work. They get released they often have day 1 patches(and semi often have a day 2, 3,..., 12 patch) and with every little fix it can break and change the drivers.

I love the Nvidia trolls who simply behave like every single Nvidia driver is perfect and on time, neither is true. Despite being a TWIMTBP title, their Witcher 3 driver is causing problems for people... AND I don't care about that. Drivers that work for everything take time, a quick fix for one thing can have unforeseen consequences. I honestly don't care that Nvidia have driver problems, I only care that Nvidia users pretend they don't and that AMD drivers are all horrific.

The game is working fantastic for me, a new driver set can only improve on already good drivers for the game. This is absolutely not a case of ZOMG without a Witcher 3 driver I can't play the game, it's running at 4fps and I'm going to kill myself over it. It's a case of single 290, 55fps+ with near maxed out settings, with a new driver xfire will enable and I'll get 60fps.... I can wait.

Personally, right now, I couldn't care less about Witcher 3 performance. I have the game but have not downloaded it yet. It will be just another game that at the time I want to try it, does not work with crossfire.

Sure, Nvidia are far from perfect, and maybe they are breaking the odd thing, but at least it looks like they are trying!

Crossfire has been incredibly shoddy this year, and there are some games been out ages that still don't work - I hate to bring it up again, but ELITE! for example.

For me, it's mostly the lack of communication, and waiting senselessly for drivers that are held up by a particular feature (freesync) that few will use when they could easily continue supporting their existing customers by releasing small updates for things that people are actually using - games/crossfire.

 

[Nexus18]

The problem is that people aren't just waiting for a few days but more like weeks and in some cases months....

That is a long time to go without playing a brand new (or in some cases, old) game that you have already been waiting for 1+ year.

I never install/play games that have just come out (unless the feedback is very good like for gta 5, alien isolation etc.) as they usually always have problems and there is guaranteed to be a patch or two in the first week.

 

[Final8y]

For me, it's mostly the lack of communication, and waiting senselessly for drivers that are held up by a particular feature (freesync) that few will use when they could easily continue supporting their existing customers by releasing small updates for things that people are actually using - games/crossfire.

Besides Elite Dangerous, i dont see a lack of communication.

They said that they are working on PCars

They said that they are working on TW3

They said that they are working on CR for freesync.

Its less of a case of communication and more a case of not liking what has been communicated and not getting what they want right now.

I think smaller updates would be better for games/crossfire but then AMD would be getting flak by the potential and current Async users "Oh look another AMD driver release without CR for freesync support" and a sorts of other comments, so they will be getting flak either way.

 

[eyetrip]

Perhaps you have a short memory, but think back to the rest of this year, and the delays and the lack of comms that went with that, and the waiting til after promised dates to announce the "sorry, it aint ready" messages, with no clarity on when people could expect the updates.

And they are doing it again now with the freesync crossfire drivers, no info on Witcher profile. They said they are "coming", but so is Christmas... simply saying something is coming is pointless without some frame of reference.

 

[BuzzLloydyear]

Besides Elite Dangerous, i dont see a lack of communication.

They said that they are working on PCars

They said that they are working on TW3

They said that they are working on CR for freesync.

Its less of a case of communication and more a case of not liking what has been communicated and not getting what they want right now.

I think smaller updates would be better for games/crossfire but then AMD would be getting flak by the potential and current Async users "Oh look another AMD driver release without CR for freesync support" and a sorts of other comments, so they will be getting flak either way.

That happens with all companies around the world though, they're damned if they do and damned if they don't. It doesn't mean they shouldn't be providing the best service they possibly can to their customers.

That's how you keep customers. The fact that people are feeling they are not doing enough, stems from the fact there is so little information made available and so few signs that they are doing much, that people are getting the impression that they're just not bothered.

I mean there are members in the AMD camp who are quite happy to publicly rip into Nvidia about certain practices, but then when it comes to giving information to it's customers. Nothing, nada, zip. If you are extremely lucky maybe a "We are looking into it" or something, but generally you get almost nothing. It sends out a very negative message to it's customers.

I am personally not asking for much, I don't expect them to perform miracles and make Gameworks games run extremely well. I do expect that this 7990 I own to be functional in these games. It's not a lot to ask for, but they are making it a lot to ask for, which I am and I assume many others are now growing tired of. Hence this backlash.

I am waiting for the new cards to come off and then I expect I will be avoiding crossfire from then on, because it appears it's too much to ask that AMD supply us with the means to have it in working order.

GameWorks may well be creating a problem, especially with the raft of GameWorks titles hitting the shelves of late. There may also be some very shady acts involved in it. What does shouting about it on twitter do though? Nothing in the slightest. If they truly believe there are shady anti-consumer tactics involved then they should call for an investigation into it. The fact that they are more inclined to cry foul, than to update their customers where they are at with drivers etc is a crying shame and it's annoying me immensely.

 

[Final8y]

Perhaps you have a short memory, but think back to the rest of this year, and the delays and the lack of comms that went with that, and the waiting til after promised dates to announce the "sorry, it aint ready" messages, with no clarity on when people could expect the updates.

And they are doing it again now with the freesync crossfire drivers, no info on Witcher profile. They said they are "coming", but so is Christmas... simply saying something is coming is pointless without some frame of reference.

No i dont have a short memory but im not going to moan as if nothing has been said since and as if we have had no drivers since Omega.

They said they are "coming" that is communicating, it just that's not what you wanted to hear, the definition of communicating is not limited to definite dates and liking what was said.

 

[Final8y]

That happens with all companies around the world though, they're damned if they do and damned if they don't. It doesn't mean they shouldn't be providing the best service they possibly can to their customers.

That's how you keep customers. The fact that people are feeling they are not doing enough, stems from the fact there is so little information made available and so few signs that they are doing much, that people are getting the impression that they're just not bothered.

I mean there are members in the AMD camp who are quite happy to publicly rip into Nvidia about certain practices, but then when it comes to giving information to it's customers. Nothing, nada, zip. If you are extremely lucky maybe a "We are looking into it" or something, but generally you get almost nothing. It sends out a very negative message to it's customers.

I am personally not asking for much, I don't expect them to perform miracles and make Gameworks games run extremely well. I do expect that this 7990 I own to be functional in these games. It's not a lot to ask for, but they are making it a lot to ask for, which I am and I assume many others are now growing tired of. Hence this backlash.

I am waiting for the new cards to come off and then I expect I will be avoiding crossfire from then on, because it appears it's too much to ask that AMD supply us with the means to have it in working order.

GameWorks may well be creating a problem, especially with the raft of WameWorks titles hitting the shelves of late. There may also be some very shady acts involved in it. What does shouting about it on twitter do though? Nothing in the slightest. If they truly believe there are shady anti-consumer tactics involved then they should call for an investigation into it. The fact that they are more inclined to cry foul, than to update their customers where they are at with drivers etc is a crying shame and it's annoying me immensely.

And as i have said in the past that sort of feedback would to be limited to the official AMD forum just like it is on the official NV forum and there is plenty of comments even on the NV forum about lack of feed back from NV.

 

[LoadsaMoney]

For me, it's mostly the lack of communication, and waiting senselessly for drivers that are held up by a particular feature (freesync) that few will use when they could easily continue supporting their existing customers by releasing small updates for things that people are actually using - games/crossfire.

Have to agree, there was absolutely no need to hold drivers back for nigh on 4 months for monitors to be released, the've already shown they don't have to, as while doing the Xfire Freesync drivers, they've released 2x others (so far), one for GTA, and the other with a few Freesync fixes, and now theres supposed to be a Witcher 3 driver coming as well.

And they are doing it again now with the freesync crossfire drivers, no info on Witcher profile. They said they are "coming", but so is Christmas... simply saying something is coming is pointless without some frame of reference.

and Christmas won't be delayed

 

[LoadsaMoney]

double post

 

[kevy1986]

So nothing happening in here ? Everyone's even stopped moaning about the downgrade issue.

 

[Nexus18]

I think everyone has sold their AMD gpu's and jumped shipped to nvidia hence the silence in here now

 

[fs123]

Everyone is waiting for the drivers since AMDRoy did tweet that they will be ready this week. Sadly even AMDmatt seems to have dissappeared and not issued any response to questions.

I'm holding off playing the Witcher 3 until they sort the crossfire out. AMD better deliver soon.

 

[Minstadave]

Yeah same here, my 7990 isn't cutting it with just one GPU running.

 

[Keto]

I think everyone has sold their AMD gpu's and jumped shipped to nvidia hence the silence in here now

Sure is tempting. No crossfire profile on release for one of the biggest games of the year is shocking, have to just hope they stick to their end of the week promise.

 

[Minstadave]

I have to agree it's pretty worrying, how disorganised can the driver team be to have to not be ready for a big release like this?

There must be something going on internally to be this slapdash, it's bad publicity :S

 

[Nexus18]

All those budget cuts, profits dwindling and staff leaving have to a bad effect in one way or another.

 

[TonyTurbo78]

Sure is tempting. No crossfire profile on release for one of the biggest games of the year is shocking, have to just hope they stick to their end of the week promise.

I would go as far as saying one of the biggest games in the last 5 years.