The AMD Driver Thread

AmateurExpert · 15 Jan 2018 at 13:34

TonyTurbo78 said:
Isn' triple buffering an opengl function only? But no triple buffering not enabled. You think that will help? I'l give it a go when I get home from work.

Triple buffering is possible in Direct3D and Vulkan too, but I'm not sure if the game has to explicitly support it or if the drivers can override. I should clarify - some form of triple buffering is needed, but isn't sufficient alone; where there is an output to a fixed frame rate sink (whether display or recording) the drivers must also apply vsync for the buffer flip logic to avoid tearing. Your scenario is more complex as the drivers at the same time also have to render the variable refresh display (effectively operating like double buffering) - it's quite likely the AMD drivers don't currently behave optimally in this scenario, but in principle it's possible to do so.

TonyTurbo78 · 15 Jan 2018 at 14:20

AmateurExpert said:
Triple buffering is possible in Direct3D and Vulkan too, but I'm not sure if the game has to explicitly support it or if the drivers can override. I should clarify - some form of triple buffering is needed, but isn't sufficient alone; where there is an output to a fixed frame rate sink (whether display or recording) the drivers must also apply vsync for the buffer flip logic to avoid tearing. Your scenario is more complex as the drivers at the same time also have to render the variable refresh display (effectively operating like double buffering) - it's quite likely the AMD drivers don't currently behave optimally in this scenario, but in principle it's possible to do so.

Interesting, thanks man.

DragonQ · 15 Jan 2018 at 21:11

Is it possible to disable FreeSync for everything except fullscreen applications? I often Alt-Enter my game windows (whilst I am searching for a game for example) but this causes weird flickering and laggy mouse movement on the desktop and in browsers etc. when the game window doesn't have focus. My monitor is switching between 144 Hz and 56 Hz (according to the OSD), whereas once I close the game it locks back at 144 Hz.

If this isn't possible, how do I request it as a feature?

shankly1985 · 15 Jan 2018 at 21:35

DragonQ said:
Is it possible to disable FreeSync for everything except fullscreen applications? I often Alt-Enter my game windows (whilst I am searching for a game for example) but this causes weird flickering and laggy mouse movement on the desktop and in browsers etc. when the game window doesn't have focus. My monitor is switching between 144 Hz and 56 Hz (according to the OSD), whereas once I close the game it locks back at 144 Hz.

If this isn't possible, how do I request it as a feature?

I not had this happen for ages now. This was a common bug when Freesync first release.

DragonQ · 15 Jan 2018 at 21:40

shankly1985 said:
I not had this happen for ages now. This was a common bug when Freesync first release.

Well I get it sometimes, but not all the time. Like right now it's OK but 20 minutes ago it was really bad.

ShortWarning · 16 Jan 2018 at 10:58

DragonQ said:
Well I get it sometimes, but not all the time. Like right now it's OK but 20 minutes ago it was really bad.

I also get it sometimes. Normally if I alt tab out and back in again it fixes it but not always.

MyBrainz · 16 Jan 2018 at 15:17

@AMDMatt Whats the latest on DayZ drivers? Im still getting mad stuttering and i've tried everything i know to fix it but im getting nowhere.. im starting to think i'd be better switching to Nvidia cuz i dont see any Nvidia streamers complain about stuttering.

Its getting pretty frustrating now, i feel like AMD have done zero optimizations for this game.

Even on really low settings and AA disabled i'll get stuttering.. it appears randomly, i change a setting like FXAA and the stuttering goes away for about 5 minutes, then its back again until i change a setting again.

Is there an issue with Shader Cache or something?

Been over a year now i've had this, pretty ****** off tbh :mad:

Nexus18 · 16 Jan 2018 at 17:43

@AMDMatt

Is the 290 capable of HDR and if so, what level of HDR?

Just when I enable it in windows 10 on my oled hdr display, the display comes up detecting HDR input but it still doesn't look quite right, I'm not sure if this an issue with windows 10 and HDR (read a lot of reports of people having issues with HDR on PC) or just that my 290 isn't capable of full/proper HDR.....

LtMatt · 16 Jan 2018 at 17:56

MyBrains said:
@AMDMatt Whats the latest on DayZ drivers? Im still getting mad stuttering and i've tried everything i know to fix it but im getting nowhere.. im starting to think i'd be better switching to Nvidia cuz i dont see any Nvidia streamers complain about stuttering.

Its getting pretty frustrating now, i feel like AMD have done zero optimizations for this game.

Even on really low settings and AA disabled i'll get stuttering.. it appears randomly, i change a setting like FXAA and the stuttering goes away for about 5 minutes, then its back again until i change a setting again.

Is there an issue with Shader Cache or something?

Been over a year now i've had this, pretty ****** off tbh

I don't know anything about it.

Anyone else seeing this?

Nexus18 said:
@AMDMatt

Is the 290 capable of HDR and if so, what level of HDR?

Just when I enable it in windows 10 on my oled hdr display, the display comes up detecting HDR input but it still doesn't look quite right, I'm not sure if this an issue with windows 10 and HDR (read a lot of reports of people having issues with HDR on PC) or just that my 290 isn't capable of full/proper HDR.....

I don't think the 290 has HDR support, you need 300 series (excluding R7 370) or newer.

Nexus18 · 16 Jan 2018 at 18:15

AMDMatt said:
I don't think the 290 has HDR support, you need 300 series (excluding R7 370) or newer.

Thought so, thanks for confirming.

shankly1985 · 16 Jan 2018 at 18:20

Nexus18 said:
Thought so, thanks for confirming.

Time for

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpzH0WJ52kc

Nexus18 · 16 Jan 2018 at 18:43

shankly1985 said:
Time for
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpzH0WJ52kc

Vega?

Not spending £800+ on one!

Think I'll be giving PC gaming/hardware a miss until things get back to normal i.e. prices and PC ports being better in terms of graphics and optimisation.

Next upgrade is most likely going to be a ps 4 pro! :eek:

LtMatt · 16 Jan 2018 at 18:47

I want to revisit this forum in three years and find you still using that R9 290 Nexus. This is like Humbug and his infamous 7870!

TonyTurbo78 · 16 Jan 2018 at 19:06

Nexus18 said:
Next upgrade is most likely going to be a ps 4 pro!

Less talk more action.

Nexus18 · 16 Jan 2018 at 19:23

AMDMatt said:
I want to revisit this forum in three years and find you still using that R9 290 Nexus. This is like Humbug and his infamous 7870!

haha probably

Ssuch a shame that the only true upgrades will cost £400+ i.e. 1070 and I would rather stick with AMD, which then means £650+ instead..... PC gaming just isn't worth that sort of premium now imo.

The way things are, I can see myself getting a 1050ti as it is the best for madvr/HTPC and has HEVC + full HDR support and doesn't cost a bomb!

TonyTurbo78 said:
Less talk more action.

More deals and then more action

DragonQ · 16 Jan 2018 at 20:18

ShortWarning said:
I also get it sometimes. Normally if I alt tab out and back in again it fixes it but not always.

There's definitely something weird happening. I shut down every application I was running and the refresh rate was still flipping between 57 Hz and 144 Hz, complete with flickering. I turned FreeSync off and then back on again in the AMD control panel and that fixed it, it's now back at 144 Hz.

Seems like a bug to me. Might have to go back to 17.4.4 yet again.

EDIT: Looks like I'm not the only one with this issue:

https://community.amd.com/thread/223724
https://community.amd.com/thread/223787

MyBrainz · 16 Jan 2018 at 22:14

AMDMatt said:
I don't know anything about it.

Anyone else seeing this?

There is an issue in the game with blurry textures which has been confirmed with the devs at BI Studio, they said last July it was due for a fix, i have asked today when that fix will be and they told me it will happen when DayZ goes into Beta.

I have a feeling that this issue is causing my stuttering in the game, do you think this is possible?

I guess no driver from AMD will fix the blurry textures anyway so it looks like i need to wait.

Its just frustrating because i'd like to stream DayZ but for most of the time its unplayable.

Do i need need to be using the 'AMD optimized' settings for DayZ? Because if it hasnt got an optimized driver for it then i need to switch those off right?

Cheers

shankly1985 · 16 Jan 2018 at 23:02

Well my issue with Forza display driver crash seems to be fixed. Over 5 hours played since I removed Asus AI suite.

shankly1985 · 17 Jan 2018 at 20:17

Insert sad face!
Forza 3 two crashes tonight Dam this crash is so bloody random! Display Driver Stopped Responding followed by Screen corruption. Had to restart PC to get my GPU back normal! "Had this happen before with Forza"

So is it know for a game to crash the display driver? I always linked this crash with bad overclocking!
Everything else I play seems fine so until I crash in another game I cant say if my GPU is failing or this game just has a strange random crash.

LtMatt · 17 Jan 2018 at 21:38

shankly1985 said:
Insert sad face!
Forza 3 two crashes tonight Dam this crash is so bloody random! Display Driver Stopped Responding followed by Screen corruption. Had to restart PC to get my GPU back normal! "Had this happen before with Forza"

So is it know for a game to crash the display driver? I always linked this crash with bad overclocking!
Everything else I play seems fine so until I crash in another game I cant say if my GPU is failing or this game just has a strange random crash.

What components are overclocked?