Installed 19.12.3. It's made one issue worse. Whereas previously a forced shutdown or crash would mean AMD Radeon Software ignoring your GPU tuning profile so that you had to reload your profile (this should never have been the default), now AMD Radeon Software ignores your GPU fan tuning upon every proper restart, reverting to the default for the card. Pain in the ****.
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The AMD Driver Thread
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Soldato
Have you used DDU in windows safe mode? The latest version of it is also needed.
Don't use profiles from previous versions, they are unstable.
The Tuning software will only reset settings if it was unstable, you need to tweak them.
I have not.
Thanks Panos. I did re-create the profile instead of using the old one, having read about that beforehand. However it still does as described (loses the fan tuning until you reload the profile again), and it's not because the GPU was/is unstable. Previous driver would only reset settings with a forced shutdown or crash (to do with memory overclocking). With proper shutdowns or restarts (and no messing with overclocking memory) it would always retain the profile. I've reverted to the previous one for now.
By memory I mean RAM not VRAM, in case that causes confusion.
Soldato
Then start from that little step to resolve the problems. Even myself had problem with 19.12.2 without using DDU to upgrade from 19.11.1.
Make sure is on windows safe mode. You have to select a checkbox the fist time to run the application and then re-run it. Also get the very latest version.
Also sanity check. Do not use MSI AB, it doesn't support 19.12.2 and everyone report issues. Is 3rd party tool that is not needed creating issues with the Navi GPUs since July.
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Yes, Afterburner conflicts with 19.12.2. That was uninstalled pretty early on. MSI Dragon Center also conflicts.
Soldato
The people need to realise that 3rd party software isn't needed with AMD GPUs adding a layer of issues on top.
MSI AB etc, are needed for Nvidia cards, due to the sht drivers UI. AMD had and has pushed the envelop and it's drivers doesn't look from 20 years ago.
And can do many things with the standard drivers. Eg tuning, can be set PER GAME if needed. (i have set the GPU to idle when playing EU4, CK2 etc). 3rd party software like MSI AB cannot do that.
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OMG what a total mess the 12.3 driver is. It crashed and rebooted the PC on first install (first time that's ever happened, and no I didnt do a DDU as never needed to previously). Then with only part of a driver installed it wouldn't load up or uninstall, so I rebooted again. Then it did uninstall and after a reboot I then attempted to re-install but that failed as the previous driver had not properly uninstalled (allegedly). I rebooted again and this time it uninstalled successfully and then finally installed, on 3rd attempt.
Then onto the testing. So 19.12.2 lost me 6 FPS over 19.12.1 in the Borderlands 3 benchmark using my Vega 56 1637 GPU + 980 HBM + 15% PL OC profile. This driver lost me 7 fps!!! Although sceptical the old profile was the issue (XML looks identical), I even tried creating the profile from scratch but same result. So back to 19.12.1 I go, again. This is the sort of bad experience that could drive me to Nvidia next upgrade if it goes on much longer
Then onto the testing. So 19.12.2 lost me 6 FPS over 19.12.1 in the Borderlands 3 benchmark using my Vega 56 1637 GPU + 980 HBM + 15% PL OC profile. This driver lost me 7 fps!!! Although sceptical the old profile was the issue (XML looks identical), I even tried creating the profile from scratch but same result. So back to 19.12.1 I go, again. This is the sort of bad experience that could drive me to Nvidia next upgrade if it goes on much longer
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Soldato
Soldato
OMG what a total mess the 12.3 driver is. It crashed and rebooted the PC on first install (first time that's ever happened, and no I didnt do a DDU as never needed to previously). Then with only part of a driver installed it wouldn't load up or uninstall, so I rebooted again. Then it did uninstall and after a reboot I then attempted to re-install but that failed as the previous driver had not properly uninstalled (allegedly). I rebooted again and this time it uninstalled successfully and then finally installed, on 3rd attempt.
Then onto the testing. So 19.12.2 lost me 6 FPS over 19.12.1 in the Borderlands 3 benchmark using my Vega 56 1637 GPU + 980 HBM + 15% PL OC profile. This driver lost me 7 fps!!! Although sceptical the old profile was the issue (XML looks identical), I even tried creating the profile from scratch but same result. So back to 19.12.1 I go, again. This is the sort of bad experience that could drive me to Nvidia next upgrade if it goes on much longer
Several pages now have said that the latest DDU in windows safe mode is needed to upgrade to 19.12.2. The whole platform changes drastically. Leaving registry keys in Windows doesn't help. Also profiles from previous versions do not work. Also since yesterday there are 19.12.3 drivers out fixing a lot of issued including Enhanced sync which AMD have said to be off over a week now.
And if you believe the grass is "greener" on the other side, I dare you visit the NV official forums.
dang still getting issues, i done ddu in safemode before installing the latest ones and i still get corruption on splash screens etc, borderlands 3 gave me nice multicoloured static during it's splash screens with my 5700 pulse so i reverted again 
Soldato
Well i dont play the driver UI, i play the games on my PC. I dont care how crap the Nvidia Control Panel looks either now that i have had experience with it, i was bothered about getting rid of game stutter and by only switching my GPU to Nvidia, it has fixed the stuttering.
Maybe there is too much bloat in the AMD driver package lately, they need to have a bare bones version of the driver for people that dont want all of the other stuff
Maybe there is too much bloat in the AMD driver package lately, they need to have a bare bones version of the driver for people that dont want all of the other stuff
Soldato
dang still getting issues, i done ddu in safemode before installing the latest ones and i still get corruption on splash screens etc, borderlands 3 gave me nice multicoloured static during it's splash screens with my 5700 pulse so i reverted again
I assume you are using 12.19.3 at this stage. Have you activated Enhanced Sync? Have you activated the Boost thing, which Borderlands 3 uses?
Borderlands 3 still have issues 3 months later with DX12 on all GPUs. Have you tried to run it on DX11 by changing PreferredGraphicsAPI=DX12 to PreferredGraphicsAPI=DX11 ?
Also have a look here.
https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/20...g-issues-how-to-fix-borderlands-3-stuttering/
Soldato
Well i dont play the driver UI, i play the games on my PC. I dont care how crap the Nvidia Control Panel looks either now that i have had experience with it, i was bothered about getting rid of game stutter and by only switching my GPU to Nvidia, it has fixed the stuttering.
Maybe there is too much bloat in the AMD driver package lately, they need to have a bare bones version of the driver for people that dont want all of the other stuff
There isn't any bloat thats the problem. These drivers are no different than previous ones, except now Relive is included on base package.
Bloatware is what Nvidia has with Experience, which need even to create an account to be able to use it. Let alone it operates as spyware also (is on the EULA).
I have no stuttering or other issues in games, however following the same steps required even by NV GPUs these days.
Keeping my system clean by not using 3rd party tools (RTSS/MSI AB), and using DDU when major updates like this one is appeared.
And you mentioned "stuttering". Upgrading from 19.11.1 to 19.12.2 had this issue with Phoenix Point which was resolved by using DDU which didn't had since build the system in July, even if upgraded to all drivers since.
Other things is, Pulse is the most common card to have issues (some mentioned having it above), especially black screens. This is almost always resolved by changing the Display power overrides settings. And this is because the DP cable used is not good and somehow Pulse exaggerates the underlying issue.
If you do have stuttering etc, open the overlay and observe temperatures and GPU speed.
Also make sure your CPU boosts properly. I have issue with AGESA 1004 on the X570 Taichi. Once a week it would lock the CPU to either 800mhz or 3600Mhz without boosting and need to restart the system. But that's on the motherboard I believe.
Soldato
Guess you havnt been following my issues over the past 3 and a half years.
Changed every component in my case, even bought a new case!
Had same exact issue in DayZ with Intel 6700K system and HD 7950 and RX 480. Moved over to 2700X with the RX 480, same issue. Bought different SSD's and then a Samsung M.2, Switched RAM to 8 Pack Edition, tried new mice, bought a Vega 56, multiple fresh installs of Windows and only installing the needed software to run DayZ.. same issues. Then i buy a 3900X, issue still there.
EVERY component changed except for having an AMD card in my PC.
I try an Nvidia card and my issues with DayZ are gone.
I even tried a £35 Mains Conditioner before buying the 1660 Super but that didnt fix it either.
Im just glad its all over.
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It shouldnt be necessary to use 3rd party driver remover in this day and age so its a bad experience. AMD have really screwed up here in my view. Twice. But yes, the likelihood of me switching to the green team is pretty slim until their bang for buck ratio improves significantly. I'll give it the benefit of the doubt and try the DDU route...
Soldato
You haven't tried to upgrade Nvidia GPU between major updates have you?
Also make sure you run DDU in windows safe mode, and make sure is set to disable Windows installing their driver.
Soldato
What DP cable do you use?