Yeah Nvidia ain't going to be pulling up trees this generation, the cuda core count and boost clocks speak for themselves. What they have managed to do though is set reasonable pricing which was below many peoples expectations and then throw in some more fake frames to give the illusion of better cards.I think people are gonna be disappointed, the very very little like for like performance they showed it seems like the 5070ti will be close to the 4080, maybe a bit faster. But not terribly close to the 4090
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I'd take that trade if that was the actual deficit in RT, I don't want less than 16gb for a new card, the only ones that look remotely reasonable to me from nvidia are the 5070ti and the 5090. 5080 having 16gb is ridiculous, even worse than the 5070 having 12gb.
On that note, whatever happened to paying double for 30% more performance for the top end cards (or whatever, you get the idea), I don't get why they're scaling them linearly like this for the last couple of gens. The people who must have 'the best' are surely willing to pay a premium for the final few % of performance.
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Personally the only thing so far that's on AMD's side is the 5070 only having 12gb of Vram. No way I would even think about buying a card with 12gb Vram for over 500 more likely closer to 600 for a decent model. With no concrete information on the 9070xt it's hard to say anything really but AMD need to get info out before the 5070 release and the sooner the better.
The 5070ti actually looks the pick of the bunch so far for a good all rounder.
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using DLSS 4 to show significantly better FPS is pretty embarrassing. Having the price isn't any help here given the lack infor for raster over a load of games.
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What matters is the FPS and latency, so overall performance, and if the image quality is good I don't think it really matters if it's "cheating" to work, as long as it's doing a good job.
Yeah, it has my attention and I had ruled Nvidia out this gen. Need to see real benchmarks. Maybe I could remove my sapphire nitro cooler and place it on a 5070ti
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But they mainly showing it with frame gen , the upscaling could be nice though
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quoting HUB "Daily reminder that Frame Generation (FG/MFG) doesn't boost fps performance, it's a frame smoothing technology, nothing more."
You don't get improved latency with fake frames, you get deceptive latency since your input on a frame may be the fake one and if you play Disney dreamlight valley then all power to you, I don't pay that so latency matters
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!00% they are leaving room for the 5080 Ti/Super which will have 24GB.
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Really wouldn't surprise me if AMD pulled putting out more info on RDNA4 to tweak pricing, especially with Nvidia confirming all the way down to the 5070. Especially as, if the rumours are true, the stock/OEM AMD version is a more efficient leaner card, but the partner models can draw substantially more power and go to much higher clocks.
Ultimately if its the same architecture as the 7900XT/XTX but with the bottlenecks fixed so it doesnt have the same artificial limits, it could still be interesting competition for the 5070-5080, it just depends on relative performance and pricing.
Ultimately if its the same architecture as the 7900XT/XTX but with the bottlenecks fixed so it doesnt have the same artificial limits, it could still be interesting competition for the 5070-5080, it just depends on relative performance and pricing.
oooohhhh. I like this quote I hope it sticks.
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Sorry haven’t had time to read the rest of this thread- does anyone have any rumours about FSR4 on RDNA3 or is it left up in the air still?
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nothing is known apart from they exist TBH.
That makes a lot more sense then what that user killer somethingamiggycig was peddling in the morning
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It's not going to be competition for the 5070 or 5080 by any stretch, If the leaks are true then we're looking at 7900XT performance with 4GB less VRAM. AMD are going to have to price it at £400 or people will just look to Nvidia.
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The 5070 exists to to upsell consumers into purchasing the 5070ti and the 5080 to upsell a 5090 purchase.
Straight out of the Apple playbook.
Well, it does sound like we'll have to wait a few more weeks to get any prices / spec : https://videocardz.com/pixel/xfx-te...-gpu-asus-has-new-box-design-for-rdna4-series
I wonder whether we'll have actual street prices and 3rd party benchmarks for Nvidia's offerings by then...
It will be interesting to see how AMD competes with the 50x0 series in benchmarks that actually bother rending all of the pixels in the scene...
I wonder whether we'll have actual street prices and 3rd party benchmarks for Nvidia's offerings by then...
It will be interesting to see how AMD competes with the 50x0 series in benchmarks that actually bother rending all of the pixels in the scene...