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If anything i feel sorry for anyone who gets tricked by that sort of marketing. At least this time round the prices aren't too outlandish and even the lowly 5070 is likely to be a decent card when all is said and done. But if anyone buys it genuinely believing they are getting 4090 performance, is kind of getting swindled
 
StarShock said:
If anything i feel sorry for anyone who gets tricked by that sort of marketing. At least this time round the prices aren't too outlandish and even the lowly 5070 is likely to be a decent card when all is said and done. But if anyone buys it genuinely believing they are getting 4090 performance, is kind of getting swindled
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Lowly ??? the 70's have always been the first Enthusiast cards, agree in the marketing lies but historically it was the card you would push the boat out to get if you was not rolling in cash
 
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Game said:
Lowly ??? the 70's have always been the first Enthusiast cards, agree in the marketing lies but historically it was the card you would push the boat out to get if you was not rolling in cash
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60 Class used to be mid range and £200/250 until Turing released. I remember 1050Ti was giving solid results on 1080p (on release) and 1060 was a futureproof 1080p GPU. Now 60 class total garbage, no futureproofing anymore. 70 is "lowly" considering what it was.. 80 reasonable/questioning (4K) due to deliberate die and spec shrinking to push people upgrading every gen.
 
Game said:
Lowly ??? the 70's have always been the first Enthusiast cards, agree in the marketing lies but historically it was the card you would push the boat out to get if you was not rolling in cash
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Yeah, meant lowly ironically, hence when I said it looked like it would be a good card in all
 
michty_me said:
Absolutely. It is an impressive uplift from what they had previously.
I've no real use for RT at present or for the foreseeable future to be honest. Pure raster is generally what I aim for. If that were to change I would re-evaluate my options I suppose.
That said, I'm not really experiencing issues with games that I play so likely no upgrade needed other than my system hasn't been fiddled with in some time.
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I'm a bit the same, I don't think any of the games I've been playing (or plan to play imminently) use RT and to be honest the same is mostly true for upscaling techs too. So not worrying about the hype in those areas too much.

I am pleased that both green and red team are continuing to improve RT. Although to be honest I'm surprised so much is being made of the RT performance regarding the 9070XT to be honest. Given that: in the polls RT was pretty low down on a lot of people's list of priorities, the fact that a lot of people don't think it improves the appearance of games and that it's not needed, not to mention the fact most people turn it off because they don't think it's worth the performance hit.

With FSR I'm pleased they're improving it, although I'm wondering how much further they can go with it, I doubt many people are hyped about "fake frames" if that's the way both sides are going. However while most people do say that DLSS is better (than FSR3), but a lot have said that FSR3 is good enough, so why they hype around FSR4 when what you've got is good enough?

So for me the question is still around the raster performance and how it compares to the 7900 XT/XTX in performance and price. I hope reviews do give that some focus and don't just focus on how well it does in RT compared to the RX 7000 series or how poor it does in RT compared to the RTX 5000 series.
 
You pick your poison. If people keep demanding ray tracing (and dlss) then it will influence the priorities. If your AMD then you have listened to it for six years or so and try to catch up because that is what the competition is better than you at.

Another angle is the gains are drying up for the traditional way, so a little lower hanging fruit to nibble at by showing consumers your making gains in RT.

We have been here before though, I remember having a 290x and for years there was nothing really to upgrade to (which is what current 7900XTX people will be thinking).
 
gpuerrilla said:
You pick your poison. If people keep demanding ray tracing (and dlss) then it will influence the priorities. If your AMD then you have listened to it for six years or so and try to catch up because that is what the competition is better than you at.
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Really? All I've been hearing is how nobody cares about RT and just turn it off straight away. I'm surprised AMD kept going with it given how much people have been saying they don't want it.
 
GoogalyMoogaly said:
I'm a bit the same, I don't think any of the games I've been playing (or plan to play imminently) use RT and to be honest the same is mostly true for upscaling techs too. So not worrying about the hype in those areas too much.

I am pleased that both green and red team are continuing to improve RT. Although to be honest I'm surprised so much is being made of the RT performance regarding the 9070XT to be honest. Given that: in the polls RT was pretty low down on a lot of people's list of priorities, the fact that a lot of people don't think it improves the appearance of games and that it's not needed, not to mention the fact most people turn it off because they don't think it's worth the performance hit.

With FSR I'm pleased they're improving it, although I'm wondering how much further they can go with it, I doubt many people are hyped about "fake frames" if that's the way both sides are going. However while most people do say that DLSS is better (than FSR3), but a lot have said that FSR3 is good enough, so why they hype around FSR4 when what you've got is good enough?

So for me the question is still around the raster performance and how it compares to the 7900 XT/XTX in performance and price. I hope reviews do give that some focus and don't just focus on how well it does in RT compared to the RX 7000 series or how poor it does in RT compared to the RTX 5000 series.
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My interest in RT is solely due to game engines like unreal 5 making it a necessity. I have no real interest in turning it on but recently some games have been falling behind on AMD cards due to these additions and I imagine it will continue. I understand it makes games easier to build as the lighting takes care of itself and leaves devs more time to spend on other aspects of the game
 
Give it 5 years and RT will be a subscription service along with FSR and DLSS. Oh and AI.
I am more concerned that the AIB 9060 XT will end up with 3 8 pin connectors like the 9070 XT. How many amps are they going to be pulling and will a gold rated PSU be ok or will be forced to move toward platinum / cybernetics.
My PSU is 54 amps on the 12v, brings back the question, will it game :D
 
MyBrainz said:
Looks like 9060/XT will have 8GB VRAM which nobody will buy in 2025, expect those to be under £300.
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Very disappointing from AMD if true. Even Intel's cheaper B570 will have more at admittedly only 10GB.

GhostDog1981 said:
Is there any point from anyone with a 6800xt/7800xt upwards to upgrade to RDNA4? Most would probably wait for UDNA or 60 series.

I think if you’re coming from older gens 30 series and 5000 series and before it will be worth it (esp if your cards are <12gb vram).
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Nail on the head. No new GPUs worth upgrading to for anyone who bought last gen, unless the last gen GPU is lower in the stack and upgrading to something high end.

HarryBizzle said:
Have there been any leaks around power draw? I'm officially interested in an upgrade from my 6700 XT. Gonna need a new CPU, though.
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The 9070XT will be likely to pull 300W+ due to the power connectors shown on cards at CES. Some models come with 2x 8pin and 3x 8pin.
 
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MyBrainz said:
Even the AIB's need to come in at under £500 else they wont sell.. the Nvidia mindshare will win again regardless of the performance.

9070XT
AIB - <£500
MBA - <£450

9070
AIB - <£430
MBA - <£380

Looks like 9060/XT will have 8GB VRAM which nobody will buy in 2025, expect those to be under £300.

Thats my thoughts anyway.
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Tpu have the 9600xt down as 12gb. No sure where they are getting that info.

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-rx-9060-xt.c4251
 
welshrat said:
My interest in RT is solely due to game engines like unreal 5 making it a necessity. I have no real interest in turning it on but recently some games have been falling behind on AMD cards due to these additions and I imagine it will continue. I understand it makes games easier to build as the lighting takes care of itself and leaves devs more time to spend on other aspects of the game
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Same thoughts here. I voted in the poll and this time I picked RT as being something I'd want. Not done that before, and simply because, I never used it. Now coming pre-baked in UE5 kinda forces your hand to use it. So AMD definitely had to do something in this area.

Im sure people would prefer to have RT capability, and not use it, rather than the other way around.

Im pretty excited that these cards might be a great all rounder. Good raster, good RT, good Vram, good power usage, and good upscaling.
 
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