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uscool said:
You expecting near 4080/7900xtx performance to come in at £349 ain't happening, £500 would be really good imo
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This, also I think a lot of people are forgetting that a possible 9600/9600XT/9700XT may come out and these would have to slot in below whatever they sell the 9070 and 9070XT at as getting a 9070 for £299 is wild as a possible 9060 would have to be around £100.

I'm going to guess the 9070 will go for sale at £420-450 and the 9070XT £499-520.
 
As I've said, demanding nothing less than a free lunch (i.e. £350) then buying vastly overpriced Nvidia cards only perpetuates the problem. AMD don't owe anyone anything any more than Nvidia do. Marketshare figures don't affect the effect a GPU has on your gaming experience or bank balance.

£350 is reasonable if the 9070xt is about 10% slower than the 5070 maximum. If it's within a similar margin to the 5070ti, then £500-£600 is good. Saying it needs to undercut it's competitor by, what, 60% is insulting and entitled.

So yeah, I'm sticking with £600 or under, on the proviso that the leaks and info that we have for the 9070xt (4080 raster, 4070ti Super RT, FSR4 being banging) are accurate.
 
mahius said:
What seems to be holding the 9070(XT) back, when compared to previous gen.

It's still nice performance if real, but it would have been nice for AMD to put a bit more VRAM on these, to help them handle future 4k titles.
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Whilst I agree more VRAM would be nice, you got to remember that these are mid tier cards only replacing the 7800XT and 7900GRE at hopefully around the £500 price point. For that, 1440p is the target and 16GB is more than enough.

Had AMD planned to launch an RDNA4 card with 16GB for £1000+ (like the 5080GB with 16GB) then the more VRAM argument is valid imo.

For the hopeful £500ish price tag, 16GB is fine by me.
 
They chose to position relative to the 5070 through the new naming, so they can't expect to ask more than the 5070 unless they only plan to sell a few cards. Rightly or wrongly when you want a lot of sales you will have to fight people's perception of AMD as compared to Nvidia. That won't be achieved through modest discounting.
 
Poneros said:
They chose to position relative to the 5070 through the new naming, so they can't expect to ask more than the 5070 unless they only plan to sell a few cards. Rightly or wrongly when you want a lot of sales you will have to fight people's perception of AMD as compared to Nvidia. That won't be achieved through modest discounting.
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The 5070ti is $750 so should easily be below that
 
Poneros said:
They chose to position relative to the 5070 through the new naming, so they can't expect to ask more than the 5070 unless they only plan to sell a few cards. Rightly or wrongly when you want a lot of sales you will have to fight people's perception of AMD as compared to Nvidia. That won't be achieved through modest discounting.
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As has been said before, they could offer us the 9070xt for a tenner and a packet of Quavers and people would still buy the 5070 in droves, having in the same breath moaned about the pricing, shrinkflation and VRAM stinginess.
 
mahius said:
Those charts, regardless of their autheticity and accuracy, do make one thing apparent. While decent at 4k, it does seem as though the 4k performance is relatively less consistent against previous gen AMD GPUs. And to me it looks like it's the lower 16GB of VRAM that seems to be holding the 9070(XT) back, when compared to previous gen.

It's still nice performance if real, but it would have been nice for AMD to put a bit more VRAM on these, to help them handle future 4k titles. Almost feels like they're taking a page from Nvidia's book, by not increasing VRAM capacity from last gen (when comparing 9070xt to 7800xt).
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True but if they do launch around the $500 mark I can forgive 16gb RAM. the 5070 seems a bit silly to have 12gb, i'd expect that on the 5060. The 5080 however is unacceptable IMO to have 16 should be 24 min
 
Bidley said:
As has been said before, they could offer us the 9070xt for a tenner and a packet of Quavers and people would still buy the 5070 in droves, having in the same breath moaned about the pricing, shrinkflation and VRAM stinginess.
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Thats a rip off as I thought is was ment to be 50p and a half eaten sandwich. :cry:
 
Mercurial said:
If AMD are really going for marketshare then the more under £600 for the XT they go the more relevant they'll be.

Ideally, £550 but £579 because "the pound".
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To be fair it's normally around 1 to 1.

If the reference leak of $479 is correct then we should expect to see entry models around the sub £500 level (Pre-scalped),don't get me wrong we will have AIBs 500-650 but the basic level ones should be around that mark.

This is heavily assuming, the leaks are correct with a MSRP of $479.

It's still bewildering, They are apparently launching next Friday and we still know nothing about them.
 
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NZXT30 said:
Nonsense.
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Obviously a tenner and a packet of Quavers is a bit of an exaggeration :cry: , but the point stands.

Normies and the general consumer have been told for years that Nvidia is worth any price they ask for because of the extra features that AMD don't have, better performance, better drivers, AMD's bad pricing, the list goes on. The 5070 is 4090 performance, in case you didn't know!

Look at the 5000 series thread, people were queuing up to spend £2500 on a GPU they knew nothing about except it had a billion cores and 32gb VRAM. Now it looks like it might not be the second coming of GPU Jesus, but people seem mainly undeterred.

Even on this thread, on this page, there is criticism of the 9070xt only offering 16gb VRAM, which Nvidia are offering on a £1k (MSRP) card.

All this points to the 5070 being an 'ok' deal. The only noise being made is about 8gb VRAM being not enough, 12gb is more than that and only 4gb less than the second card in the stack, no further thought required.

There is a point at which the consumer gets the market it deserves. This generation needs to be the start of the turning point for both the manufacturer and the paying customer.
 
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