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ZG002 said:
As before, I'd be surprised if they left money on the table.
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From the leaked figures,another poster calculated the RX9070 was only 24% faster than an RX7800XT.

So,that means AMD can't even offer 24% more performance over an RX7800XT at £480. If they could they would have launched the cards by now.
 
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Firegod said:
Woop. Dunno what all the fuss is about. March it is. Gives me a bit extra time to save up. Hopefully reviews will be out soon / beforehand. Don't care what NVIDIA is doing lol as no way I'm paying silly money for their products.
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Who says you're getting a bargain with AMD, they will be £50 cheaper than the nvidia alternatives.
 
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RavenXXX2 said:
OMG

I'M DONE with AMD GPUs

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AMD confirms Radeon RX 9070 series launching in March - VideoCardz.com

Radeon RX 9070 will launch in March Not in January, not in February but March. AMD has finally provided an update. The company, through David McAfee (VP & GM of Ryzen CPU and Radeon graphics), confirmed today that the new Radeon series will be released in March. This puts an end to speculation...
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AMD is trying to gain mid to low end market share and the only way to do that is to make sure their cards are the top performers in those tiers. I suspect they are going to keep their cards under wraps until Nvidia has launched the 5070. It looks like they decided that it's no point giving the competition the heads up so they can fiddle with clockspeeds and drivers to beat them. Also FSR4 may not be ready or they may be scrambling to add 4X frame gen as well after Nvidia's announcement.

Unless you are desperate to get a card then it makes sense to wait instead of scrambling for a Nvidia card on release.
 
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fs123 said:
AMD is trying to gain mid to low end market share and the only way to do that is to make sure their cards are the top performers in those tiers. I suspect they are going to keep their cards under wraps until Nvidia has launched the 5070. It looks like they decided that it's no point giving the competition the heads up so they can fiddle with clockspeeds and drivers to beat them.
Unless you are desperate to get a card then it makes sense to wait instead of scrambling for a Nvidia card on release.
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Nvidia cares little what 8% marketshare radeon does.
 
fs123 said:
AMD is trying to gain mid to low end market share and the only way to do that is to make sure their cards are the top performers in those tiers. I suspect they are going to keep their cards under wraps until Nvidia has launched the 5070. It looks like they decided that it's no point giving the competition the heads up so they can fiddle with clockspeeds and drivers to beat them. Also FSR4 may not be ready or they may be scrambling to add 4X frame gen as well after Nvidia's announcement.

Unless you are desperate to get a card then it makes sense to wait instead of scrambling for a Nvidia card on release.
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We all know how their launches go. Stock for a day or two,followed by more stock landing weeks later or even longer.

So their answer is to wait for the RTX5070 which will be one of the volume Nvidia cards? The dGPU in the RTX5070 is smaller than the RTX4070 one and it means we might get an RTX5060TI 12GB soon after.

Unless AMD offers much better performance,nobody is going to wait for them,let alone loads of system integrators. The RX7800XT launched after the RTX4070,and the latter had more share by then than the 7800XT ever managed. The 7800XT wasn't in stock at many retailers for ages.

Moreover,with Trump pushing all his tariffs,at least Nvidia has a fixed FE price. AMD doesn't so it will be even worse.
 
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Some of you are acting like in the two years these cards will be current 99% of the sales would have occurred in the next few weeks
 
Doop! said:
Some of you are acting like in the two years these cards will be current 99% of the sales would have occurred in the next few weeks
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In all seriousness, of course AMD will still have time to sell these GPU's, but the month or two delay will have a disproportianate impact when measured over that two year period.
The launch window timing is critical as the market gears up for it, anticipates it and therefore you have a large amount of customers now eager to buy something new and literally their only choice will be to go Nvidia. It's hard to put a number on it, but I'm pretty sure that a lot of people who were either floating voters, or erring on the side of AMD are now going to be lost customers now. Given that this launch window was anticipated for a long time, people will have even sold their GPU's or had PC's built and ready for a GPU and are just not going to be so willing to wait much longer when the Nvidia option is on the table.

It's also just terrible P.R for AMD.
 
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I'm not sure how releasing, potentially a month, after Nvidia's planned release is going to help get market-share away from people that were probably planning to buy Nvidia anyway.
Sure there are the red team buyer that would wait until September for a card half as good as the 5070 for 80% of the price and explain how they got the best best deal (would probably include the use of "fine wine"), but for people genuinely on the fence and those that think Nvidia makes graphics cards and AMD make CPUs this is unlikely to change their minds.
That said of course, a lot of people will probably be buying a few months down the line after they're both out so it won't bother them too much. I suppose by that time Nvidia might be getting their drivers optimised while AMD will be on day 1 drivers, which may affect how they compare in reviews.

Could you imagine (try really hard) if following this release team red supporters complained about how the reviews and reviewers were unfair towards AMD...
 
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